STONEWALL REVERSE FERRET INCOMING

I've wondered this.
I suspect a bloke playing Hayley (Harold) would have been a real world version which would have not been accepted as easily.

Of course the character and actress confused things for many people, with simple assumptions as a woman is a woman even if she was pretending to be something else.

We would not have a lot of the nonsense we have suffered if it's been a bloke playing the character.

Corrie was huge. It will have had huge impact.

I think you are just harping on about something that doesn't exist.

Surely anybody who want to convey a point of few doesn't rationally think I will post using terms that are common to me and my friendship group rather than think what is the way to express this so that people who do not share my background, who are not part of my culture, who do not read or listen to what I do, will be interested.

I know nobody who talks about ferrets.

The assumption because you do it means everyone does is just parochial insularism.

Also what is so strange is not to be interested in the fact that using colloquialisms that reflect your circle might be incomprehensible to others, but rather assert your are right to continue to use a word that only has meaning to a small section of society.

Did you never do the common exercise about the word dinner being the best example of how the use of english by the english illustrates the divisions in society.

When the storyline played out I remember wondering how it was supposed to work - what could they do to cause a man to become a woman and obviously Julie Hesmondhalgh played a pretty convincing woman character due to the fact that she was… a woman.

Sometimes I wonder if they had used the bloke who came up with the storyline (who I think later appeared as a ‘woman’ in Hollyoaks) , would we be where we are now? Corrie was such a big show.

I've been on Mumsnet for just two years, and have encountered the phrase "reverse ferret" quite often. I admit I was puzzled at first but also intrigued, then delighted when I finally worked out what a reverse ferret is.

I love the way that posters use witty, funny, vivid words and phrases. Just above in this very thread, I've encountered a Nothing Burger to be consumed alongside a Word Salad - thanks @tobee - I've had Word Salads before but there's nothing quite so delicious as a Nothing Burger to go with it. Mmmm - mmmmmm.

Excellent thread, too. Great discussions and lots of information, thanks for starting it @Taytoface - I feel encouraged and heartened by the slow turning of the tide, and the prospect of the madness of all the confused and contradictory gender identity contagion being washed away, until it is gone.

Glad to have ground this thread as I noticed a few "i hate Stonewall, they're transphobes" hissy fits on BlueSky yesterday but didn't have time to check.

"Have always been at war with Oceania..."

I know I often link to reddit to get the other side of stories like this but it's very revealing - https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1spmuec/the_new_chair_of_stonewall_is_cozying_up_to_jk/

As far as they are concerned, Stonewall are and have always been nazis who hate trans people apparently

The sooner Stonewall goes under the better but I'll enjoy watching how this goes down first.

This is from Jolyon this morning

"I'm all for good faith engagement with people whose minds have been poisoned against trans people. But this is madness: JK Rowling is a toxic sewer of hate, aligned with fascists, and it's unforgivable for Stonewall to praise her"

I know nobody who talks about ferrets, so why use an obscure phrase?
And as to reading reddit why would I?

I will be celebrating my 80th birthday this week and I know exactly what a reverse ferret is. It's not an obscure phrase and even if it were, the beauty of the internet is that if you come across a word or phrase you don't know, you can find out instantly what it means.

As for Reddit, I used to belong to the Gender Critical forum on there until the misogynists that run Reddit decided that women weren't allowed to have opinions they didn't approve of. I no longer post there, but do check the transgender forum if I want to see how TRAs are reacting to things in the news. The mainstream media are all very well, but they don't give the whole picture by any means.

Anya Palmer

By appointing Kezia Dugdale as a trustee, Stonewall has both doubled the number of women on its board of trustees (the other one being Jake Graf), and increased the number of women who know they are women from zero to one.

I know I often link to reddit to get the other side of stories like this but it's very revealing - https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1spmuec/the_new_chair_of_stonewall_is_cozying_up_to_jk/

As far as they are concerned, Stonewall are and have always been nazis who hate trans people apparently

The sooner Stonewall goes under the better but I'll enjoy watching how this goes down first.

This is from Jolyon this morning

"I'm all for good faith engagement with people whose minds have been poisoned against trans people. But this is madness: JK Rowling is a toxic sewer of hate, aligned with fascists, and it's unforgivable for Stonewall to praise her"