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Grace Campbell - Alastair Campbell

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BlueLegume · 17/04/2026 18:24

If I have missed any threads already started about this then apologies.

I am literally lost for words on the post she added to her podcast along with Charlie Craggs.

My own daughter has been lost to this cause. I am hoping I get her back. How utterly vile can a young woman be - Grace Campbell - towards women who have worked so hard to give her such privilege. I might be ugly and a freak Grace with awful hair. But I am not a mean girl.

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DworkinWasRight · 18/04/2026 07:56

One of the sad things about this is that a few years Campbell was raped, so she should understand better than anyone why women need single-sex refuges. The brave FWS women have fought to help women like Campbell - only for her to turn on them and call them ugly.

ApplebyArrows · 18/04/2026 07:48

Ugly and bad hair? Has she met many trans women?

SisterTeatime · 18/04/2026 07:34

FlippinFumin · 17/04/2026 23:18

Apart from the utter bullshit they both spout, what about the cushion? For all her whatever, Grace clearly feels uncomfortable with that man. Evolution is hardwired into women, she knows he is not safe. And she is right. Mr Campbell needs to look more closely at his daughters body language, rather than her juvenile ramblings. That would tell him how she really feels around this man.

Yes I noticed this and wondered if it’s something she does all the time or just with this Charlie bloke, I agree she’s not comfortable.

Very juvenile mean girl vibes too, that slightly hysterical trying to impress orbe accepted by someone you’re scared of.

fromorbit · 18/04/2026 07:33

fromorbit · 18/04/2026 07:32

JKR is on point as always. Stuff like this is now a HUGE asset to us. We can peak people, but most of the people coming over to the biology exists side just watch what TAs do and say.

J.K. Rowling
6h
They were thinking that simply EVERYONE*, darling, would applaud like seals.

*Obviously excludes such non-persons as nurses needing to change their clothes at work, rape survivors who can't afford private therapy and female prisoners locked in with male sex offenders.

Should have linked to the post:
https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/2045286008233587173

J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) on X

They were thinking that simply EVERYONE*, darling, would applaud like seals. *Obviously excludes such non-persons as nurses needing to change their clothes at work, rape survivors who can't afford private therapy and female prisoners locked in with ma...

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/2045286008233587173

fromorbit · 18/04/2026 07:32

JKR is on point as always. Stuff like this is now a HUGE asset to us. We can peak people, but most of the people coming over to the biology exists side just watch what TAs do and say.

J.K. Rowling
6h
They were thinking that simply EVERYONE*, darling, would applaud like seals.

*Obviously excludes such non-persons as nurses needing to change their clothes at work, rape survivors who can't afford private therapy and female prisoners locked in with male sex offenders.

SexIsNotNebulous · 18/04/2026 06:58

RogueFemale · 17/04/2026 23:01

JKR funds a women's refuge, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-63943766 Grace's ignorance and ugliness is staggering.

I know she does, which is why I mentioned it. I agree her ignorance is staggering.

DworkinWasRight · 18/04/2026 06:41

Coatsoff42 · 18/04/2026 06:29

i wonder if Louis Theroux want to interview some of these people. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

The best thing is to let people hear what they are saying, it’s so clear that what they value in women is an attractive appearance and keeping men happy, it’s not very progressive at all and that’s gender ideology all over.

It should probably go without saying that you can’t really call yourself a feminist if you go round calling other women ugly. Grace is clearly not very bright, which is sad. Her mum always seemed quite intelligent to me.

Louis Theroux won’t do a programme on these people because like most supposedly educated men who imagine they are well informed, he doesn’t understand why sex-based rights are important.

Coatsoff42 · 18/04/2026 06:29

i wonder if Louis Theroux want to interview some of these people. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

The best thing is to let people hear what they are saying, it’s so clear that what they value in women is an attractive appearance and keeping men happy, it’s not very progressive at all and that’s gender ideology all over.

GloiredeDijon · 18/04/2026 06:22

Ffs their views on women remind me of those sexist 82 year old father in law has.

EmmyFr · 18/04/2026 06:19

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2026 23:10

Because Alistair Campbell has persistently chided women for not being kind enough when it comes to this debate. He says his opinions on feminism and 'women's issues' are formed by his daughter. And she is purporting to be a feminist, while piling insults and slurs on women based on how they look, their supposed sex appeal or lack thereof.

This. I'm reminded of first noticing Helen Joyce's Twitter account some years ago and wondering what she meant by "No, you be kind" in her bio.

DworkinWasRight · 18/04/2026 06:10

There’s a lot of confusion (as well as nastiness) in what Grace says, first complaining that the FWS women want to make everyone wear skirts, and then attacking one of them for wearing a trouser suit. There is no way to make any of it make sense.

There’s also the peculiar attack on them for supposedly having too much time on their hands - an accusation which, as Victoria Smith points out, has been levelled at female campaigners since the suffragettes. The reality of course is that most fit campaigning in around full-time jobs and caring for children or elderly parents.

The FWS have achieved something remarkable and wonderful for women, and very many of us enormously grateful to them. They will remembered long after their detractors are forgotten.

Igmum · 18/04/2026 05:16

I thought they both sounded drunk or high. Seriously. It’s the sort of idiotic conversation I probably had at age 14 at a party after several vodkas. One that preceded declarations of being each other’s best friends. I can’t believe she’s 32.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 18/04/2026 01:15

TRAs have form for abusing women based on our appearance, including racist and sexist abuse of black women. https://x.com/thewomencov/status/1453511002377670661

It's no surprise that sleb TRAs would stoop just as low.

♀️🦖The Women Coventry💚🤍💜 (@thewomencov) on X

In this one a male targets a black woman, says her natural hair is "minging" and tells her to buy a weave

https://x.com/thewomencov/status/1453511002377670661?s=21

finsberry · 18/04/2026 00:14

MidlifeConfusion1 · 17/04/2026 23:56

Oh, I wonder why it's just being made a fuss of now

@finsberry he was a big figure politics, a strategist who got a lot of credit for reviving Labour in the 1990s

Thanks to everyone else who answered

Some extent I still don't get it
Absolute nobody chats complete shit

It's shocking in the sense that you expect anybody to have more intelligence than this! But I'm just wondering why it's suddenly got attention

I looked him up. Don’t like him because he’s a war criminal and misogynist prick but admire his strategy. You think he’d know by now when to shut up. Clearly not given his wading in on the trans debate.

DrBlackbird · 18/04/2026 00:05

Olderbadger1 · 17/04/2026 18:45

I didn’t know what Grace Campbell looked like and at first assumed it was the person on the left but thought well, objectively speaking Grace looks a bit blokeish.

And if we’re strictly speaking about conventional appearances, neither are attractive. So, is this internalised misogyny on Grace’s part and sucking up to Charlie (never heard of this person) by using ‘looks’ as the stick to beat our modern day suffragettes. Regardless, it’s deeply playground unpleasant. And irrelevant as FWS have done such an immense service for women. Thank you.

Graces friend also explains Alastair’s and Rory’s pro TWAW stance on top of being two sexist men.

MidlifeConfusion1 · 17/04/2026 23:56

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 17/04/2026 23:46

Not sure. This was from June 2025 so a while ago.

She’s a comedian. Apparently.

Oh, I wonder why it's just being made a fuss of now

@finsberry he was a big figure politics, a strategist who got a lot of credit for reviving Labour in the 1990s

Thanks to everyone else who answered

Some extent I still don't get it
Absolute nobody chats complete shit

It's shocking in the sense that you expect anybody to have more intelligence than this! But I'm just wondering why it's suddenly got attention

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 17/04/2026 23:52

How crude is this Charlie person?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=IjwKV99FLcQ&pp=ygUOQ2hhcmxpZSBjcmFnZ3M%3D

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 17/04/2026 23:46

MidlifeConfusion1 · 17/04/2026 23:05

to be clearer
Why is this conversation between two idiots attracting so much attention online?

Not sure. This was from June 2025 so a while ago.

She’s a comedian. Apparently.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 17/04/2026 23:44

finsberry · 17/04/2026 23:12

I don’t know who alistair Campbell is, I’m not really old enough. I’ve just seen another woman really upset by online bullying dressed up as comedy and activism

I don’t know who alistair Campbell is, I’m not really old enough.

Lucky you!

SionnachRuadh · 17/04/2026 23:20

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2026 23:17

These days, I suppose, 'podcaster'. His boss is Gary Lineker. The prick's prick.

That's another cautionary tale. If Gary Lineker had just stuck to what he was good at - reading out the football scores, laughing at Alan Shearer's terrible jokes, and advertising crisps - he still might be well thought of today.

nois · 17/04/2026 23:20

finsberry · 17/04/2026 23:12

I don’t know who alistair Campbell is, I’m not really old enough. I’ve just seen another woman really upset by online bullying dressed up as comedy and activism

an irrelevant nonentity

FlippinFumin · 17/04/2026 23:18

Apart from the utter bullshit they both spout, what about the cushion? For all her whatever, Grace clearly feels uncomfortable with that man. Evolution is hardwired into women, she knows he is not safe. And she is right. Mr Campbell needs to look more closely at his daughters body language, rather than her juvenile ramblings. That would tell him how she really feels around this man.

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2026 23:17

These days, I suppose, 'podcaster'. His boss is Gary Lineker. The prick's prick.

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2026 23:15

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alastair_Campbell

Journalist, influential adviser to the Blair govt. Prick.

Alastair Campbell - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alastair_Campbell

SionnachRuadh · 17/04/2026 23:14

I find it amazing that Alistair Campbell says he defers to his daughter on this issue. And that more about him than her.

Before he got this weird second act as a podcaster, this is a man who spent almost his whole career being a lying thug in the service of a Big Man - first Robert Maxwell, then Tony Blair.

I wonder if there's any other issue he would listen to a woman on, never mind defer to her.

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