Grace Campbell - Alastair Campbell

In Grace's interview with Grace's mother, in addition to the part where her mother talks about maternal ambivalence and how annoying Grace is, there is a part with Grace asking her how she managed to look so young, and persistently saying how good/young her mother looked.

It is quite sad, really.

Ever since their disastrous coverage of the US election, their star has been waning. They're just two opinionated, over confident blokes. There's zero special insight there, quite the opposite in fact.

Tom and Don on the other hand go from strength to strength.

Before that episode I was a regular listener and thinking of subscribing. Afterwards, not so much.

I do still listen from time to time. This week RS was plugging the Sarah McBride interview. He said something to the.effect that people who criticise them on gender issues really should listen to it, as it might change their minds. That could be a new one for the bingo card.

But now I am determined to give it a go.

Alistair Campbell is an intelligent man, he also has a large and influential platform.

I can't comment on his intelligence but the words, "cunning thug" spring to mind rather than "intellectual".

As for "influential". Is he really? Who does he actually influence?

Ali "Dodgy Dossier" and Rory just seem like fading has-beens trading off past notoriety, because neither of them have ever really covered themselves in glory.

I stopped listening to the podcast when I had to listen to Alistair Campbell dismissing all women's concerns about the trans movement simply by saying that his daughter and her friends were happy to have transwomen in their toilets so obviously transwomen weren't an issue. This is a man who is paid to comment on what is happening in British politics. This was at the time of the Supreme Court judgement, and, without doing any research or giving it a moment's thought, he simply adopted his daughter's position. Apparently asking one woman in the UK how she feels about something is all the research you need to do on "women's issues". And he's self-righteous with it. Rory Stewart then commented that he had a transwoman friend who was nice. So that's that political issue done and dusted then.

It sounds like if you are less than a supermodel or have ordinary hair and ordinary clothes, you aren’t allowed to say anything, and no one should listen to you. On any subject.
Such an extremely shallow and self limiting view of the life people live. Only people with well tended hair and fabulous outfits can be valuable or interesting. What a ridiculous metric. Where would Einstein be on this scale of value? Or Emily Brontë?

I can’t bring myself to, I’ll find it too enraging.

I agree on the comments about appearance but it’s actually not even true about style. Susan Smith wore a green suit - one of the Suffragette colours - and it really makes their picture outside the SC stand out and is great for photos above headlines etc. Maya and Helen often wear the blue of the Sex Matters branding.

It always makes me laugh when TERFs are accused of being middle-aged women with nothing better to do. It’s BECAUSE they are middle-aged women with many things to do that they’re so efficient and effective.

I originally watched this without sound and previous poster's comments caused me to Google. I had originally thought Grace to be the one on the left. I will just leave that there.

I'm guessing my post has been hidden because it contains a link to a Casino dot org article about the collapse of the Campbell père et fils betting syndicate, which seems to have be memory-holed

Indeed. It's remarkable how some powerful left-leaning/liberal women who've made good careers and seem to have no problem asserting themselves in public have long marriages to men who pay lip service at best to the issue of women's rights. I'm thinking of the Clintons, but I expect there are others.

I'll just say it again - Fiona Millar is virulently against private education (and also selective education, I think). The idea that she and Alistair Campbell would have paid for private education is ridiculous. There's plenty to criticise her (and her parents) for without making that assumption. She's grown up in a North London Labour luvvie bubble and hasn't a clue about the realities of life, but has the unbounded confidence and arrogance plus the media and political connections to sound off about absolutely anything that will get her attention. Her generation's equivalent of Poly Filla, perhaps.

Blimey.
My cat has more of a career that Charlie.

I remember listening to the Private Eye podcast one time, and hearing one of the journalists talk with massive confidence and get the subject matter totally wrong. I think it was a point of employment law.

It was a shock, it shows how much we trust authorative voices.

Just gonna say it…
alastair Campbell is many things but stupid is not one of them. Being influenced by his young woke daughter is image management, not reality. It gives a redemption cover story to a man who started a war and got called out for calling women ‘birds’ by her. That man is a spin doctor. Assuming Grace has the power and is manipulating him is ridiculous.

I avoid everything from Goalhanger except TRIH, I'd love it if Dom n Tom found a way to extricate themselves from the wingnut empire.
Grace Campbell behaves exactly as I expect a child of AC to carry on. And I doubt that she received any negativity during her childhood due to her dad's involvement in starting the Iraq war. She will have been surrounded by the children of other Important London People who agree to disagree amongst themselves (but despise the plebs outside of their bubble, even when sending them off to die in the desert).
As you can see I have nothing but contempt for these hypocritical frauds 😀

I think the comments they both make about the physical appearance of women, indicates deep insecurities they have about their own looks.

It’s quite sad.

Yes, and one of her "comedy" skits is about her arguing so loudly against private schools with her boyfriends mates in the pub that he thought she must be deaf.

I can just imagine.

https://www.tiktok.com/@disgracecampbell/video/7431636419795356960
https://x.com/SidewaysOtter/status/2045220701204889784

I don't know whether to be more surprised that she's a stand up comedian, or that she's 32.

I usually avoid TRIP, but I'm intrigued by the idea of Rory Stewart in conversation with Sarah McBride. It would probably sound like Pinky interviewing The Brain.

I haven't, but I probably should. McBride, through his closeness to the Biden family, has been one of the most influential TRAs, but seems to fly under the radar quite a bit.

The comments below are awesome! All pointing out his lack of critical thinking and the impact those with trans identified children have had on him and his peers. Self interest all the way..

As a side note, there was a time when he made regular appearances on breakfast TV but seems to have disappeared. Hearing his voice again reminds me what a pleasure it is now to start the morning and not have to listen to his bluster and bullying tone.

I enjoyed it when it started. It had a new approach and there were some interesting insights. Overtime, I have become less enamoured of Rory Stewart, who has become something of a pin up of an ex-politician for some people. Perhaps that’s because I don’t like his politics and I don’t like some of the comments that he has made about people.

I did find it interesting to hear some of the observations of Alistair Campbell because he had experienced things that I have not done. It’s been going quite a time now and it’s well past itself by date.

Well I find them both smug, insufferable twats so it's a mystery to me why the podcast is such a success in the first place.

Here's a clip

https://x.com/i/status/1914953909270950277

Indeed. Surprising to see her displaying such juvenile levels of thinking and open hostility to other women, especially older women . Maybe growing up with a man in the grip of the Victorian attitude of policing women's thoughts, political views and speech doesn't allow for the development of social skills like insight and empathy?
Who knows.