Grace Campbell - Alastair Campbell

They stupidly don’t realise that their comments highlight exactly this. We are props and holes to them.
Same with the ugly comments. Just shallow nonsense. We’re not in competition with them, we just want them to stay out of our single sex spaces.

Or alternatively “Cousin Greg” from Succession who is so A List (sarcasm alert) that he had to be referred to as his character teacher than his own unknown name

It's so weird the way it all comes back to sexual competition.

Its almost like they can't conceive of women as being good for anything else.

It really is an odd flex, and one we hear quite often from trans identifying men.

'Your husband will want to shag me'.

Mate. No.

It's weird that Charlie Craggs would assume my DH to be gay, or indeed someone who would cheat on me with a random he met in a toilet 🤣. I mean, I'm fully aware of what shits men can be, but seriously I'm sure loads of us have male partners who are perfectly nice and manage quite easily not to randomly shag TiMs!

Yes, it's not quite 'we just want to pee', is it?

@TransParentlyAnnoyed
I don't like getting into back and forths with individual posters, but I have to say something about your last post. Saying that 'girls being touched and coerced by 'males'' is a 'sick fantasy' of individuals on this board is not only entirely incorrect, but also deeply offensive. Just bear in mind how high the percentage is of women who have been sexually assaulted and then extrapolate that out to the women on this board. It is not a fantasy. It is reality for many of us. And it is also not a fantasy that I want to do what I can to protect my DD from being 'touched and coerced'.

Lots of women, yes, but also men writing out thinly-disguised, sick CSA fantasies about girls being touched and coerced by 'males' under the pretence of worrying about them.

Not just girls, we may as well not ignore the elephant in the room on this thread, really.

By which I mean CC from the podcast referenced in the OP:
Charlie Craggs: “Put me in the Men’s: I can handle it and I can handle your husbands. I will give your husbands what they’re not getting at home with you."

Doesn't really support the claims of 'use the bogs with no agenda of intimidating other people.'

It's not something I considered before, but it makes a lot of sense

It's a big deal with Rory too I think. He's not an untalented man by any means, but anyone who knows Brian Stewart's biography will suspect Rory has spent his life feeling like he'll never live up to his old man.

Nepo babies are often the people who are really attracted to the idea that you can reinvent yourself at will.

This gets to the heart of it really. In a world where Nepo babies can be anything, why can't a man become a woman? Only ugly meanies would refuse to play along.

As for the rest of us mugs, who have to live in reality, who gives a shit? We are too boring to waste time on.

Haven't RTFT but I first came across her when she ruined an episode of the otherwise utterly enjoyable Alan Davies As Yet Untitled for me. I was shocked to hear she identifies as a comedian

Thank you for reminding us of the CPS's exercise in using coercive control against children.

Policy Exchange's research from 2023 suggests that nothing has changed - despite them dumping their sign up to Stonewall fake law.

https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/the-crown-prosecution-services-approach-to-transgenderism/

It seems every generation of girls is destined to be sold a new fantasy of male gratification dressed as female liberation.

Grace and I have very different backgrounds, but I can recognise some of her experiences as female experiences, including MVAWG. I hope at some point she is able to reflect on the larger mechanisms at play.

I'm not very keen on condemning her because I think selling out older women to appease men is a tale as old as time, and I expect eventually she may come to see that.

I mean many of us are not even all that much older, but still.

There are some rum characters in the Labour Party, but it's not quite that bad.

Are you okay?

Jesus, I read 'Lammy'.

"Be kind" in the context of this thread raises legitimate questions about what is meant by "be kind" if it means allowing some males who identify as women like CC access to female spaces thats unwise in my opinion. I don't think that is "anti trans hate" it's protecting women rights.
The OP in this thread is about a trans woman and a woman mocking and ridiculing women who fought a legal challenge for their rights. I don't think that was "kind", thats why i felt the need to "write all that out".
I not sure what you mean by "sick CSA fantasies" on here ,i haven't seen that or i would report it.
I don't think MN is a "sewer" but it does reflect varying views which i think often are helpful ,sometimes not so much.
But you are right in that it's not compulsory to engage or contribute in MN.

What on earth are you talking about? 😵‍💫

Did we get to the bottom of whether your " son" is a natal female who wears dresses and akirts but is still somehow a man ?

I once heard a woman talk about how, in her younger years, she'd gone on the groupie circuit with the specific aim of having sex with Lemmy.

She never did get to have sex with Lemmy, but she had an endless fund of stories about celebrities treating young women badly.

I have to admit that I didn't find any of these stories empowering.

Who among us cannot say that their life-long dream was having sex with an A-list celebrity?

Df's have a huge influence on their daughters. That might explain her attention seeking behaviour. Her df is often talking bollocks publicly on his silly podcast so maybe she followed his example.

That CPS messaging is horrifying.
A charter for abusers.