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Written statement at 2.30pm today: First Anniversary of the FWS v SM ruling

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Forresty · 14/04/2026 10:56

Just pointing this out, separate from any threads it may have been mentioned on, so people not involved on those threads can be aware.

Does anyone know where/when it will be published?

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PrettyDamnCosmic · 14/04/2026 14:08

Bridget Phillipson orders single-sex spaces guidance to be ‘toned down’

The headline of the Times article is totally misleading. As this paragraph from the article shows.

She has been in talks with the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), under its new chair Mary-Ann Stephenson, and while the guidance itself will not change, the regulator has been asked to include more examples include more examples of how organisations can be inclusive within the law.

Kinsters · 14/04/2026 14:03

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/04/2026 13:56

I'm really angry to see her dick pandering like this 🤬 She's basically unable to change the law so she wants the regulator to pander to the feelings of these men by making the guidance as sympathetic and 'inclusive' towards them as possible.

It's nice to know that women's safety and rights don't factor in her considerations at all. She's not bothered about making things more inclusive for us.

100% this. It's so galling after years without a shred of sympathy or understanding for women.

ItsCoolForCats · 14/04/2026 14:01

They need to change "the tone" 🙄. For fucksake. Meanwhile, businesses and orgs will continue in a muddle saying they don't know how to follow the law.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/04/2026 14:01

the guidance does not matter

what matters is the law

the law takes precedence

BUT so many orgs have been waiting for the guidance to drop - know we KNOW it will in May

So whatever the guidance says - and it cannot say men can go in the women's - does not matter

As there will be legal case after legal case - which will side eventually with no males in females spaces.

The delay has been killed. this is good news all round for everyone I am certain.

MyAmpleSheep · 14/04/2026 14:00

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/04/2026 13:56

I'm really angry to see her dick pandering like this 🤬 She's basically unable to change the law so she wants the regulator to pander to the feelings of these men by making the guidance as sympathetic and 'inclusive' towards them as possible.

It's nice to know that women's safety and rights don't factor in her considerations at all. She's not bothered about making things more inclusive for us.

The art of diplomacy, so it is said, is that of letting the other person have it all your own way.

If a dick pandering politician is the price to get lawful guidance issued and obeyed, so be it.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/04/2026 13:59

TheNoWord · 14/04/2026 13:40

Bridget Phillipson orders single-sex spaces guidance to be ‘toned down’

https://www.thetimes.com/article/2a74d8d4-8e81-48d7-b616-64f6dd1f3c8e?shareToken=fa46e3ce6d9422ec0d2d2caa63773a42

"The Times understands that the changes that have been made to the resubmitted code are minimal."

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/04/2026 13:56

MissGendering · 14/04/2026 13:48

Bridget 'centre the cock' Philipson

I'm really angry to see her dick pandering like this 🤬 She's basically unable to change the law so she wants the regulator to pander to the feelings of these men by making the guidance as sympathetic and 'inclusive' towards them as possible.

It's nice to know that women's safety and rights don't factor in her considerations at all. She's not bothered about making things more inclusive for us.

MyAmpleSheep · 14/04/2026 13:54

I think it's important that the guidance is issued as soon as possible. If it's changed to make it easier for businesses to follow that's actually a good thing. What we want is businesses to follow the law, and not to have an excuse to moan about how the guidance is too difficult to understand.

As I said, if it doesn't match up to the clear requirements of the Act then it's open to Judicial Review. Nobody will let it slide.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 14/04/2026 13:53

Kinsters · 14/04/2026 13:46

How ridiculous! It sounds like BP has basically said "yes this guidance is absolutely correct but how can we continue to centre trans people and soothe trans people's feelings???" 🤢🤢

Look you need to adjust your calculations 2 + 2 shouldn't be 4, it should be more.

You know, at least 4.5 or preferably 5 - got it?

Kinsters · 14/04/2026 13:53

They can't go as far as allowing trans identifying men in female spaces but they can come up with wild suggestions for how these men can be accommodated, I assume with more examples of mixed sex facilities/provisions. She really doesn't get that no matter how many inclusive options there are for these men, if there is even one female space that is not available to them then all the spaces that are available count for nothing.

WiseWomanOfPutney · 14/04/2026 13:51

Forresty · 14/04/2026 12:09

We will never know what the changes are. As nobody has seen the first CoP.

We did see the original draft, though, because loads of us commented on it.

MissGendering · 14/04/2026 13:49

Fudge It & Fill It With Penises Son.

SwirlyGates · 14/04/2026 13:48

Looks like she has spent the last year trying to think of ways she can ignore the law.

MissGendering · 14/04/2026 13:48

Bridget 'centre the cock' Philipson

MissGendering · 14/04/2026 13:47

"Bridget Phillipson told Britain’s equality regulator that it must “tone down” its guidance over single-sex spaces and make it more inclusive before she presents it to parliament.'

SwirlyGates · 14/04/2026 13:47

Bridget Phillipson told Britain’s equality regulator that it must “tone down” its guidance over single-sex spaces and make it more inclusive before she presents it to parliament.

"tone down" Hmm
"inclusive" Angry - we know what inclusive means, it means include the men's wishes and ignore the women's rights

Kinsters · 14/04/2026 13:46

TheNoWord · 14/04/2026 13:40

Bridget Phillipson orders single-sex spaces guidance to be ‘toned down’

https://www.thetimes.com/article/2a74d8d4-8e81-48d7-b616-64f6dd1f3c8e?shareToken=fa46e3ce6d9422ec0d2d2caa63773a42

How ridiculous! It sounds like BP has basically said "yes this guidance is absolutely correct but how can we continue to centre trans people and soothe trans people's feelings???" 🤢🤢

MissGendering · 14/04/2026 13:40

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 14/04/2026 13:37

Erm, you know what "edgeplay" means?

Although I did misread "pre-election period" as "pre-ejaculation period" when it scrolled past quickly.

Do you know what, I got it muddled up!

😂

MissGendering · 14/04/2026 13:37

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 14/04/2026 13:09

I sincerely doubt she would. It’s too toxic. In some ways the court hearings are saving the Government because they can say “nothing to do with us” blame the Judges for the recognition that single sex provision matters.

The whole zeitgeist is shifting across the world. The recent Finnish study has shown transition isn’t the panacea it has been made out to be. Sports have moved, the puberty blocker trial is mired in controversy and potential legal challenges. Law suits against doctors are bubbling up.

I doubt any Labour politician wants to stir this one up.

India is dropping self ID, too.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 14/04/2026 13:37

MissGendering · 14/04/2026 11:50

I feel like I'm stuck in the most boring game of edgeplay imaginable.

Erm, you know what "edgeplay" means?

Although I did misread "pre-election period" as "pre-ejaculation period" when it scrolled past quickly.

spannasaurus · 14/04/2026 13:34

I just had a quick look at the pre election protocols for ministers and it says this

Ministers
Ministers remain in office and in charge of their departments during an election. It is customary for them to observe discretion in announcing initiatives that are new or of a long-term character in their capacity as a minister.

It's meant to stop them making announcements that may affect the election. Does the new guidance really fall into the category of a new initiative?

lifeturnsonadime · 14/04/2026 13:31

What a bunch of pathetic, dick pandering, muppets.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/04/2026 13:28

MyAmpleSheep · 14/04/2026 12:56

We should remember that if the guidance is changed so it doesn't match the law, it's amenable to Judicial Review from this side also. GLP is not the only player in that game.

Agreed. There is no chance at all that the guidance says men can go in the ladies.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/04/2026 13:27

TheNoWord · 14/04/2026 12:57

Phillipson can’t lose her seat until there is a GE though.

She has clearly waited until she can use purdah as an excuse to postpone laying the guidance before the May local elections happen. This means if Starmer is pushed out she still has no terf cooties on her hands as she would require union backing for a leadership bid.

Entirely possible. Politicians do power and nothing but.

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