Younger generations being pro trans

It also means that the information gathered in 2021 regarding gender identity is useless and can't be used as a gotcha.

spectator.com/article/why-does-the-census-say-there-are-more-trans-people-in-newham-than-brighton/

Yes, I’m not sure anyone was seriously suggesting there aren’t older ones. “Steph” the founder of TRA group Translucent is mid 70s, for example.

Well very interesting. I didn’t know this. Although the concerns seem to be around non-native speakers misunderstanding the question rather than age.

Surely we have all met older trans people? I personally know a trans woman who must be around 70.

It does seem to be the case, as PPs have said, that this is a social contagion that is fading among younger children (early teens). It's pretty horrible for those who got caught up in it in their teens, had the medical interventions, are now in their 20s, and find themselves infertile, their health permanently damaged by hormones and surgery. I believe that ultimately theirs will be a very specific generational cohort who find themselves extremely isolated as they grow older. Neither the generations above them nor the generations below them will have subjected themselves to these unnecessary medical interventions.

Also, what is trans to the middle aged man, isnt trans for the girls and women. They arent the same, and dont want the same things.

The middle aged men are sexually motivated in a way women arent.

So the movement is middle aged men who'll turn into old men, the young men who turn into middle age men, and the women who really want to avoid men all together and become more aware of these men's motivations as they get older.

Not much of a long term movement, is it?

A movement made up of middle aged men and kids isnt going to test of time.

The kids grow up and ask themselves what the fuck was going on.

my experience is the same. It’s been a gradually fading trend/social contagion for years now.

It's the same reason why so many younger and want to be younger women are left wing and far left these days.

They don't really believe it but there is social capital in pretending to believe this.

You get a sense of belonging if you say TWAW, BLM, Israel is the devil etc. And you will be ostracised if you don't.

The first thing we could do to counter this?

Ban TikTok

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They parrot what their friends say.

The 2021 census data is fatally flawed on this issue.

I was being a bit facetious and obviously if you tell a teenager something is red too much the time will come they’ll want to test if it’s blue. I think we have been a bit more dogmatic with the trans stuff though, I just don’t think it’s a discussion or something to critically think about too much, it’s naval gazing that has got us here, sex is irrefutable.

What, this census?

osr.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/news/osr-publishes-its-final-report-on-the-review-of-the-statistics-collected-on-gender-identity-during-the-england-and-wales-census/

www.sociology.ox.ac.uk/article/flawed-census-question-leads-to-inaccurate-data-on-gender-identity

I think the most you can do is raise your children to be critical thinkers. In the end, they will form their own views and may well be disconcertingly influenced by their peers. I have brought my children up in an atheist household, but I am under no illusion that some day one of them could arrive home clutching a Bible and a tambourine. I would have to grit my teeth and get on with it. My eldest went through a brief period of being impressed with Andrew Tate’s supposed ‘business acumen.’ I was horrified to the point of wanting to scream, but I calmly expressed my views, while letting it play out. Thankfully it was a phase about which he is now acutely embarrassed. He has a couple of trans friends, but doesn’t believe people can change sex, which means he doesn’t think I am evil if I ‘misgender’ them. I have never told my children what they should think, but I have always been clear about HOW they should think.

Aside from abolition of income tax and no mention of legalisation all drugs and prostitution

My observation is that mid and younger teens already eye-roll it. It is very much not the ‘cool kids’ that are trans in this age group. They don’t say anything negative at school - they’d be in trouble and it would be unkind but they do find it irritating. Some make jokes about ‘identifying as cuz’.

Your youthful beliefs are the official policies of the Green Party!

That claim makes no sense. If gen Z are tolerant because they were brought up to be, that implies the generation raising them are equally tolerant. Therefore gen Z would be no more tolerant than millennials etc.

Worth remembering that we gave trans lobbyists regular access to children, schools and other organisations where children congregate. They were allowed to gaslight children with the poisonous notion that they weren't entitled to boundaries from the opposite sex, the fantasy that sex change is possible and the idea that women related language is bigoted. Frankly it's amazing that any of them came out of the education system with their critical thinking faculties intact.

Fortunately, so many of them have, Some have learnt from bitter experience of being coerced /bullied into complying, many from knowing (even if they daren't voice it) that they were being bullied into accepting a delusion and many as they matured and understood the intellectual and moral incoherence of genderism.

When even Starmer beclowned himself by claiming that women can have a penis, followed by a reverse ferret admitting that they really don't, it's no surprise that children initially believe lies that are sold to them.

Children are the victims of all this - all children for being sold a lie and most of all, the vulnerable ones who bought into it and are wrecking their bodies, health and futures by trying to "change sex".

When I was at school and into my 20s I believed all sorts, most of which I now don’t believe. For example, I believed all convicted criminals could be rehabilitated so didn’t need to go to prison; that all children should decide what they wanted to learn and that schools should be staffed with ‘facilitators’ not teachers; that income tax should be abolished; that Jesus rose from the dead so that I could go to Heaven; that Parliament should be abolished; that communism was a ‘good thing’; that I knew better than my parents and that people shouldn’t be allowed to own more money than they needed to live well.
That’s the thing about youth - they haven’t experienced enough of the real world to form solid beliefs that will continue into adulthood.
The irony is now that I have been a teacher for 36 years, haven’t stepped foot in a church voluntarily for 30 years, am ok with paying my fair share of income tax etc.

Can you give me examples of what would make me transphobic please.

But there are trans people of all ages. You can see it the 2021 census data. There are more younger trans people though.

Not my children. We’ve been talking to them about this since they came home in reception saying “girls can be boys and boys can be girls”.

I don’t have much influence anywhere else, but I’ve made damned sure my children don’t buy it!

Nah, the up and coming generation will end up even more against all this than we are.

Some of my young colleagues in work are the most GC I know. The think it's utter bullshit and are sick of the misogyny of what is essentially a men's rights movement

I fear the whole world will have other problems to worry about than trans in the near future.

I don't believe that trans women are women, but please don't call me transphobic. I am not.

I treat trans people like I treat everyone else. But obviously I don't believe that they are magically a different sex. I sympathise with their predicament, but not to the extent that I subvert reality.