Younger generations being pro trans

In 20 years they will have experienced the real world and grown up.

This is a good point. DD currently 19. Absolutely thinks that people can dress and present themselves as they please. Would never deliberately mis gender anyone. Hugely supportive of people's rights to choose their sexual preferences etc. But also clearly understands the need for single sex spaces and for competitive sports to be split along sex (not gender) lines. Says any fool can understand the testosterone advantage.

There is another word that TRA like to throw about but can correctly be applied to those who shout ‘No debate!’, ‘be kind!’ and ‘transphobia!’ - bigotry. TRA lack of tolerance of other’s views is pretty much the definition of bigotry.

It reminds me of a poster on another thread making a veiled threat that because the younger generation were so “tolerant”, the young girl who is bringing a court case against her school for single sex spaces would have her “life made quite unpleasant” much tolerant

I'm embarrassed to agree. As a teenager in the late 1980s who knew everything, I couldn't understand why some boring women still banged on about feminism and womens rights. The fight had already been won had it not?

It wasn't until I entered the workplace I realised what a colossal tool I'd been. Having children and now being older I can't imagine why I ever thought feminism was all done with.

The folly of youth 😂

Yeah cos young people never change their mind once they have experience do they? Oh wait…

The majority

I know people say the debate over whether Father Christmas is real is over but really it has only just begun. Studies show young children are far more likely to believe Father Christmas is real than older people…

The Cultural Revolution. All you need to know about putting a bunch of easily influenced people with a need to conform to group think in charge.

No, what you have taught them is that every group claiming a 'vulnerable, minority' status should be elevated and pandered to without applying any critical thinking. You have taught them to circumvent democracy by shouting #NoDebate at anyone who disagrees with them and to reframe disagreement as hatred. Anyone who has brought their children up this way has done them a huge disservice that the rest of us are now having to patiently unpick.

Inmyuggs
Younger people have open minds
Older people do not.

Ageist, or what?🙄
It appears that Inmyuggs' worldview, trans people are 'in', older people are 'out'.

They were completely brainwashed at school/online, easy for their 'open minds' to be filled with nonsense. Hopefully not happening so much now, I'm not sure.

The trouble is that transphobia exists, but the majority of what is called transphobia, is just women saying I don’t want to get changed next to a man, thanks.

and when you are raped in prison, assaulted in hospital, ogled in a shop changing room, have your faith demonised, collapse or are attacked in an fully enclosed toilet cubicle because nobody can see you, have to protect your daughter in the changing rooms, what then?
A tiny minority of a small minority is (in some circumstances) making women’s lives untenable. The law is very clear that this is illegal. Sadly the younger generation will probably learn this the heard way sooner or later.
Instead of “being kind” society should be campaigning for more support because there is clear evidence that many trans women need support with their mental health problems and society being kind really isn’t helping them and that’s before you get to the damage that the drugs and surgeries do to their bodies.
Worse still, what happens to those who regret this and who want to transition back.
So called being kind isn’t always the best policy; this is a clear example and that’s before you consider the law which is very clear on the definition of sex.

It burns out, if you live somewhere that was ahead of the curve when it started, then you can see the change in the high schools. It's now a bit cringe and the preserve of the hard work, attention seeking kids. Nobody is nasty but it's very "you do you," rather than "omg, you're so interesting and exciting."

I think everyone has a point where it gets boring and you start to see through it, so these 20yos are not going to feel the same way when they are older and making the laws.

Don't get me wrong, there is still the odd obsessive parent trying to force their vulnerable, trans identified, teenage daughter into the boys changing rooms, but they aren't getting any traction. It's seen as settled, school has extra spaces for changing and toilets and no lunatic parent calling this segregation is going to change it. Once there are third spaces, there's no good argument for going back and then the real arguments (I want and will tantrum if I don't get it) are clearer.

Sadly I think this is very true.

The victims of all this are autistic children. Their differences and observation and rejection of gender stereotypes has been funnelled into the trans movement with devastating consequences, including physical harm.

It is not evidence of being trans it is simply pattern recognition and high alertness for injustice (noticing and objecting to what is allowed for boys, vs for girls and vice versa). It has been very effectively incorporated into evidence that they were 'assigned the wrong gender at birth'. There is very uncomfortable cognitive dissonance when one attempts to differentiate between sex and gender.

My autistic DD's friend group are predominantly trans boys (AKA autistic girls). Some already on "T".

I do think their generation of ND kids will work it out in the end, but it will be too late to reverse the damage. DD is lesbian and still a girl, I think we may be coming out of the danger zone. Being who you are, liking what you like, wearing what you want to wear is harder than it was when I was growing up. DD has been 'mis-gendered' by her peers from age 9, simply because she always wears trousers.

The trans movement is incredibly regressive in terms of gendered expectations. That is very clear as an autistic adult.

1. Who is 'we'? I hope you're not trying to suggest that everyone your age believes the same things and behaves the same way.
2. I imagine you have taught them that some beliefs and behaviours are beyond the pale. Is it OK to identify as minor-attracted or as a zoophile? We don't just nod along and accept anything anybody says about themselves. A bit of critical thinking is required to be sure that the other person's beliefs and actions aren't going to adversely affect others.

I'd say the majority of those who have "transitioned" in the last ten years, but there are definitely old school "transsexuals" around as well.

I'd agree that the intensely pro-trans cohort seems to be those now at, or just left uni so 19-25. The school kids I know all seem to eye-roll at best, or be rather disparaging at worst.

Sorry OP but you're demonstrably wrong. The surveys from the last two years show that the vast majority of people of all ages reject trans ideology.

I suspect it's the behaviour of transwomen themselves that has made people see that the ideology is built on lies. We all know that 62% of transwomen in prison have convictions for rape or sexual assault.

Here's a very cheering quote from YouGov:

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51545-where-does-the-british-public-stand-on-transgender-rights-in-202425
'a new YouGov study, the fourth in a series reaching back to 2018, shows an increased scepticism towards transgender rights across the board – and particularly in the two and a half years since our previous wave of this study.
Notable in this most recent study – conducted in mid-December – is the growing resistance on transgender rights among those groups that are typically more permissive on the issue, like women and young people.'

This craze is over in my daughter’s school and at least half a dozen of her year group have quietly desisted.

Ageist nonsense.

How many of these older TIMs are what we used to call transvestites?