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Younger generations being pro trans

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PeachyDaisy · 10/04/2026 05:22

I know many are saying the trans debate is over, but I think it has only just begun. And the reason is the younger generation. Studies show young people are the most supportive of transwomen going into women's spaces amongst all groups. In 20 years, these people will be in positions of power making decisions where they can enact their beliefs.

Also most of the western world has fallen to trans ideology (which activists will use as credibility for their ideology). I don't buy the argument that as long as it is just in EU/Australia/CA/ NZ then it is contained.

Having the laws on our side and sex matters fighting is great, but it feels like little consolation if we have to spend the next 50 years constantly in a court room suing organisations as they continue to to flaunt the law. It is like wack a mole, you stop one stop one organisation from doing it whilst another one pops up.

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spannasaurus · 03/08/2026 17:25

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Such a lovely and uncombative thing for Peachy to say

RedToothBrush · 03/08/2026 17:23

MashaPav · 03/08/2026 14:14

How can they be far right when transphobia is ideology from the far right? The entire anti trans movement is funded by far right groups and money.

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Good job we aren't anti-trans here.

We are pro-women's rights.
Complete with plenty of lefties. As well as a few centrist and slightly righties.

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PeachyDaisy · 03/08/2026 17:22

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I'm done talking to you. Please don't address me ever again and I will never address you (unfortunately there is no way we can just block each other)

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AimsAndObjectives · 03/08/2026 17:15

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PeachyDaisy · 03/08/2026 17:07

FlirtsWithRhinos · 03/08/2026 17:05

Thank you, it is really great to hear you aren't giving up ❤

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Can you do me a favour and stop accusing other gender critical women of being weak and 'giving up' especially when you have no idea who they are or what they believe in. It is quite a rude thing to say about someone. I've never done it to you.

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 03/08/2026 17:05

PeachyDaisy · 03/08/2026 16:34

PD is very prone to despairing and giving up and letting TW have what they want. It is odd for such a self described GC poster, for sure.

Where have I ever said we should give up or let TW into women's spaces? Putting words in someone's mouth is just plain rude (and uncalled for)

My attitude is that much of the western world has fallen to this ideology and its going to take decades to rollback (in my home country of Australia, I'm not sure it will be in my lifetime). Call it pessimism if you like, to me it is just realism. We have a long, long, long way to go before we eradicate this ideology.

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Thank you, it is really great to hear you aren't giving up ❤

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PeachyDaisy · 03/08/2026 17:05

AimsAndObjectives · 03/08/2026 16:55

Me: Yes, I mentally file PD's posts under 'not GC'.
You: Bitch I don't need your support. You can get fucked for all i care.

These two things are not the same.

Feel free to talk shit about me all you like. I have zero respect for your opinion about me.

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My initial response was harsh, which is why I deleted it instantly. I was offended and wrote something I shouldn't. Fro that I am sorry.

But you did start it by attacking me and claiming I wasn't gender critical. I never said anything about you before you posted that rude post.

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AimsAndObjectives · 03/08/2026 16:55

PeachyDaisy · 03/08/2026 16:48

You were flat out rude by saying I wasn't gender critical. Stop with the petty gatekeeping. You don't know me so don't pretend you do.

Stop talking shit about me and I won't talk shit about you.

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Me: Yes, I mentally file PD's posts under 'not GC'.
You: Bitch I don't need your support. You can get fucked for all i care.

These two things are not the same.

Feel free to talk shit about me all you like. I have zero respect for your opinion about me.

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PeachyDaisy · 03/08/2026 16:48

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You were flat out rude by saying I wasn't gender critical. Stop with the petty gatekeeping. You don't know me so don't pretend you do.

Stop talking shit about me and I won't talk shit about you.

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Lazylucy · 03/08/2026 16:45

Interestingly
I have 4 adult DC
Two went to state schools
Two were educated at home
Guess which two think trans rights are a priority,and which two are very left in thinking
And which two are middle of the road ,but don't think much of trans rights ,and certainly don't think they are a priority.
We send our DC to schools ... thinking they are just getting an education..
They were ..an education in left thinking and trans rights

AimsAndObjectives · 03/08/2026 16:43

@PeachyDaisy Crikey. How many edits are you going to do?

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PeachyDaisy · 03/08/2026 16:34

FlirtsWithRhinos · 03/08/2026 16:25

PeachyDaisy identifies a GC feminist but usually posts about how one gender critical win or another is ultimately doomed. This time it's demographics, other reasons for despair have included that the women's rights enshrined in the EA are all just too hard to provide in practice.

PD is very prone to despairing and giving up and letting TW have what they want. It is odd for such a self described GC poster, for sure.

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PD is very prone to despairing and giving up and letting TW have what they want. It is odd for such a self described GC poster, for sure.

Where have I ever said we should give up or let TW into women's spaces? Putting words in someone's mouth is just plain rude (and uncalled for)

My attitude is that much of the western world has fallen to this ideology and its going to take decades to rollback (in my home country of Australia, I'm not sure it will be in my lifetime). Call it pessimism if you like, to me it is just realism. We have a long, long, long way to go before we eradicate this ideology.

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PeachyDaisy · 03/08/2026 16:30

Jane379 · 03/08/2026 16:20

The 'whole western world'?

Is the whole of Europe like this? Even more socially conservative countries like Italy, Poland etc?

I hadn't been keeping up much with the debate in Europe but had assumed things were getting less extreme over there, and that they'd taken notice of the evidence of harm via puberty blockers and AGP.

Is that not true, then?

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The word 'whole' might be too much of a generalization. It is more appropriate to say, most of the western world allow men in women's spaces. England are really leaders in fighting this movement

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AimsAndObjectives · 03/08/2026 16:26

Yes, I mentally file PD's posts under 'not GC'.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 03/08/2026 16:25

Jane379 · 03/08/2026 16:20

The 'whole western world'?

Is the whole of Europe like this? Even more socially conservative countries like Italy, Poland etc?

I hadn't been keeping up much with the debate in Europe but had assumed things were getting less extreme over there, and that they'd taken notice of the evidence of harm via puberty blockers and AGP.

Is that not true, then?

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PeachyDaisy identifies a GC feminist but usually posts about how one gender critical win or another is ultimately doomed. This time it's demographics, other reasons for despair have included that the women's rights enshrined in the EA are all just too hard to provide in practice.

PD is very prone to despairing and giving up and letting TW have what they want. It is odd for such a self described GC poster, for sure.

Jane379 · 03/08/2026 16:20

PeachyDaisy · 10/04/2026 07:19

Some percentage will grow out of it, but I still a sizeable percentage won't. And that's the problem. That percentage may increase. Especially when the whole western world (apart from maybe the UK and US) are pretty much fully pro-trans now.

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The 'whole western world'?

Is the whole of Europe like this? Even more socially conservative countries like Italy, Poland etc?

I hadn't been keeping up much with the debate in Europe but had assumed things were getting less extreme over there, and that they'd taken notice of the evidence of harm via puberty blockers and AGP.

Is that not true, then?

PriOn1 · 03/08/2026 16:17

To go back to the original question, I think there’s a possible wild card situation which may unfold.

My daughter’s (extended) friendship group, as a young lesbian, includes some very vulnerable FtM lesbians, who have been convinced that being a straight male is better. At the moment, they remain in young lesbian circles, where they have a strong influence over their friends. They are genuinely vulnerable and I suspect they invoke protective instincts.

At some point, if and when they start to realise they were never men, but were sold a damaging lie, which has negative health impacts, then the whole group may start to wake up and realise that they are not “men finding their true selves” but women who have been cheated.

I can see why the young lesbians would not want to believe what I believe, which is that their friends have been mutilated in an unevidenced experiment that should never have been allowed to happen and is causing great harm to both the patient and society.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/08/2026 16:07

Jane379 · 03/08/2026 15:48

As an older Gen Z, I think fandom culture is maybe more likely to involve higher numbers of very online people- and therefore possibly more likely to be more pro trans than average.

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Yes, I think that’s probably true.

Jane379 · 03/08/2026 15:58

FKAT · 10/04/2026 09:30

People have been saying this for years about leftism. "Look at how left wing and radical young people are - surely by the time they are 40 and running things, we will be living in an egalitarian socialist dream and Tories will no longer exist." Those long haired, liberal 60s kids are now the Brexit / Reform generation.

It's a stage thing, not a generational thing. Prison abolition and gender fluidity look wonderful when you haven't had much experience of life. When you've met your 20th dodgy weirdo in a woman's toilet and had your phone snatched for the 10th time, it tends to pall.

'Those long haired, liberal 60s kids are now the Brexit / Reform generation.'

  • to be fair, the 60s and 70s did bring reforms to race, sex equality and gay rights which have mostly stuck. But I agree that economically things shifted.
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MashaPav · 03/08/2026 14:23

Any source for that as last time a poll was done it was Millenials in their late thirties and early forties who still consume the media from the former author. However the younger generations call it cringey, bigoted etc. So I would love to see a source backing your claims that “young people love it”

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“Former author”?

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I’d love to be a former author with 20million book sales worldwide in my new adult crime series. Admittedly not as many as the 600m book sales (and still selling) children’s series, but more than award winning, much serialised Val McDermid.

Jane379 · 03/08/2026 15:51

Shortshriftandlethal · 10/04/2026 10:13

I do wonder why the Labour party has refused to ban social media for children...at a time when an increasing number of countries are now doing exactly that. To my mind the whole trans phenommenon( for children) has been spread and propagated by social media......I suspect many MPs are as addicted to social media and the 'politics' found within it as young people are to TikTok and You Tube..hence their reluctance to ban it.

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To be fair quite a few Reform members and Tories seem to oppose a ban too on the grounds that it's a decision for parents not the government.

Jane379 · 03/08/2026 15:48

dinodart · 02/08/2026 23:10

go into any fandom popular with young people and everyone has pronouns in their bio and this stuff is treated like the normal thing, and everyone accepts JKR is the "evil" one. it's depressing.

As an older Gen Z, I think fandom culture is maybe more likely to involve higher numbers of very online people- and therefore possibly more likely to be more pro trans than average.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 03/08/2026 15:13

MashaPav · 03/08/2026 14:23

Any source for that as last time a poll was done it was Millenials in their late thirties and early forties who still consume the media from the former author. However the younger generations call it cringey, bigoted etc. So I would love to see a source backing your claims that “young people love it”

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The 14 year olds round here all adore HP. Do you actually know any young people Mashy? Trans is old hat and an attention seeking cringe, apparently.

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