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Late night surprise about reputation of FWR

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IwantToRetire · 10/04/2026 02:19

I was on Site Stuff to report back on ongoing freezing and noticed another thread about whether Mumsnet should apologise about deleting threads about ongoing conflict in the Middle East.

And there were some comments about there being a border line between legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anti semitism. And it is this last that get these threads deleted.

So was surprised to see some comment on this thread saying it was as bad as some threads on FWR, and those particularly at fault are thos with a GC view point.

(Funnily enough AI suggested a title for this thread along the lines of "Are FWR debates judged differently ..... " but now it has hidden its suggestion, just when I was going to use it.)

Oh its come back

"Are sex and gender debates on FWR judged by different standards?"

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MyAmpleSheep · 10/04/2026 03:57

LeftieRightsHoarder · 10/04/2026 03:48

The debate goes on constantly. But I have yet to see anything hateful from the GC side.

I agree. When challenged, those who say there are posts hateful to trans people are never able to come up with any examples.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 10/04/2026 03:48

ItsNotOrwell · 10/04/2026 02:46

You’re surprised? I note you haven’t discussed the response to posters bringing this up, as I think it illustrates the problem beautifully. In response to this comment: “there have been some horrifically hateful posts from both sides, though I have to say, it seems more so on the women’s rights side. It has meant that some of those debates have become so toxic you are put off from trying to make any meaningful, reasonable contribution,” a poster said “perhaps you’d like to post links for those posts?” Then another poster said “This poster will struggle to find any “horrifically hateful posts” from any women of MN because there aren’t any. Quite the opposite, in fact” then just to seal the deal, “Better stop those witches discussing women’s rights eh?”

There is no debate allowed in this environment. None.

The debate goes on constantly. But I have yet to see anything hateful from the GC side.

IwantToRetire · 10/04/2026 03:34

I note you haven’t discussed the response to posters bringing this up, as I think it illustrates the problem beautifully.

If I had wanted to discuss is I would have posted under the OP.

I started the thread to let those on FWR know this - that it / the forum was being discussed.
Maybe it just is that simple.

You have leapt in and presumed the intention.

I'll give you a hint. Reread the title

Late night surprise about reputation of FWR

ie Never occured to me anyone would bother, or insert into a discussion about the conflict in the ME, comments about FWR!

Grin
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ItsNotOrwell · 10/04/2026 02:46

You’re surprised? I note you haven’t discussed the response to posters bringing this up, as I think it illustrates the problem beautifully. In response to this comment: “there have been some horrifically hateful posts from both sides, though I have to say, it seems more so on the women’s rights side. It has meant that some of those debates have become so toxic you are put off from trying to make any meaningful, reasonable contribution,” a poster said “perhaps you’d like to post links for those posts?” Then another poster said “This poster will struggle to find any “horrifically hateful posts” from any women of MN because there aren’t any. Quite the opposite, in fact” then just to seal the deal, “Better stop those witches discussing women’s rights eh?”

There is no debate allowed in this environment. None.

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