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Not again! - Government is proposing to allow trans-identifying boys into under 18s girls’ school sport - unless it is deemed unsafe

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Another2Cats · 06/04/2026 10:29

Very much as the title. An account I follow on Twitter/X @ SEENinSport posted this tweet.

https://x.com/SportSEENuk/status/2041037786082329070?s=20

Apparently there is an open consultation from the Dept for Education

'Keeping children safe in education: 2026 proposed revisions'

One of these revisions is that schools may choose to allow boys to take part in girls sports. There are also other issues about 'social transitioning'

It says that there are "some" sports that "may" need to be played in single-sex groups from a certain age. Frankly though, I can't think of any school sports that shouldn't be single-sex activities.

Apart from these sort of 'maybe' sports, the new guidance says that schools will need to consider any boys requesting to play in girls sports in light of the advice on "considering requests for support with social transition"

This is from paras 96 and 97 of the draft proposed changes:

96 Some sports may need to be played in single-sex groups from a certain age to ensure children’s safety, and where this is the case there should be no exceptions. In other cases, schools or colleges may have adopted a policy of single-sex sports for reasons related to fairness.

97 Where there are no safety concerns and a child makes a request relating to
how they participate, schools and colleges will need to consider the request in light of the advice on “considering requests for support with social transition”. This means that the school or college would need to take into account all the relevant factors, including whether supporting social transition is overall in the best interests of the child, as well as considering the impact on other children and the aim of creating safe and fair environments for children to participate in PE.

Frankly, the whole thing about even considering "supporting social transition" is entirely wrong, I feel.

Link to the proposed revisions:

https://consult.education.gov.uk/independent-education-and-school-safeguarding-division/keeping-children-safe-in-education-2026-revisions/supporting_documents/keeping_children_safe_in_education_2026_draft_for_consultationpdf-1

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SEENinSport has suggested the following:

The survey has 41 questions but Q35 is the key one for sport

If you only have a couple of minutes, you can press return for each question till you reach Q35

They also have a link to suggested answers here:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/67fa41451fd5090aa3fb410b/t/69ceb2a41c966b1fc3a00b94/1775153828864/KCSIE+SEEN+in+Sport+response+Feb+2026+%286%29.pdf

and their website page on the issue is here:

https://www.seeninsport.org/consultation-on-kcsie-2026

The consultation is open until 22nd April and if you wish to contribute your thoughts on any of the questions then the government consultation form is here:

https://consult.education.gov.uk/independent-education-and-school-safeguarding-division/keeping-children-safe-in-education-2026-revisions/consultation/intro/

https://consult.education.gov.uk/independent-education-and-school-safeguarding-division/keeping-children-safe-in-education-2026-revisions/supporting_documents/keeping_children_safe_in_education_2026_draft_for_consultationpdf-1

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 06/04/2026 15:02

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Another2Cats · 06/04/2026 14:47

AStonedRose · 06/04/2026 13:14

Oh it absolutely does mention social transition, though it's not the heart of the thing and the policy appears sensible with or without the trans aspect.

My point was that people were repeatedly saying the policy completely rejects any notion of fairness, whereas it's repeatedly mentioned. At this point, it seems some anti-trans posters just want something to rail against, whether that thing actually exists or not.

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I'm the OP, where you talk about social transition not being at its heart - you are mistaken.

If you look elsewhere at the proposed new guidance, there are some 25 paragraphs (251-275) that cover social transitioning.

This proposed policy is not in any way about whether an activity is single-sex or mixed-sex. Schools are already free to arrange different activities as mixed-sex or single-sex.

If a pupil were to request that an activity change from single-sex to mixed-sex then a school or college can decide on that.

However, this guidance very specifically states that if a pupil requests to participate in a single-sex activity designated for the opposite sex then the school will "need" (not 'may' but 'need') to take into account the 25 paragraphs of guidance on social transitioning.

This whole part of the guidance is about dealing with social transitioning in relation to single-sex sports.

Now, of course, the guidance says that schools must not allow pupils into toilets, changing rooms, or boarding or residential accommodation designated for the opposite sex, with no exceptions.

The guidance also says where schools have implemented single-sex sports as being necessary for safety reasons, there should be no exceptions and pupils must not be allowed to participate in these sports designated for the opposite sex.

However, a focus on “safety reasons” implies schools can include trans-identifying children in non-contact sports such as athletics, swimming, tennis etc.

This is disproportionately unfair to girls. Male advantage exists before puberty, and is very obvious at secondary school. Confidence, dignity and privacy are also justifications for single-sex sport.

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MyAmpleSheep · 06/04/2026 14:35

InfoSecInTheCity · 06/04/2026 14:19

Because it’s an opportunity for girls and boys to ask questions they may be uncomfortable asking in front of members of the opposite sex, to raise concerns they may have.

That’s an argument for boys and girls to learn about condoms and self defence separately. Not an argument that girls don’t need to know about condoms nor that boys don’t need to learn self defence.

Again: Why do girls not need to know about condoms and boys about self defence?

InfoSecInTheCity · 06/04/2026 14:19

MyAmpleSheep · 06/04/2026 12:51

Why do girls not need to know about condoms and boys about self defence?

More widely looking at the guidelines, this abandons “fairness” as a criterion of having sex separated sports. Only “safety” is to be taken into account.

Can you say “girls as support animals for troubled boys” any louder?

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Because it’s an opportunity for girls and boys to ask questions they may be uncomfortable asking in front of members of the opposite sex, to raise concerns they may have.

DailyEnergyCrisis · 06/04/2026 14:13

Completed this- thanks for sharing.

MyAmpleSheep · 06/04/2026 14:10

PrettyDamnCosmic · 06/04/2026 14:07

Please can you post a link as I obviously missed this?

It would be very odd for a government to change the equalities legislation without the direct involvement of its own regulator, the EHRC. Is there evidence of this in anything said by Stephenson?

PrettyDamnCosmic · 06/04/2026 14:07

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Please can you post a link as I obviously missed this?

Womblingmerrily · 06/04/2026 14:04

@MyAmpleSheep Agreed - I don't think there is a reason why Yoga should not be mixed sex.

This might mean just one solitary boy chooses this option, or one solitary girl chooses skateboarding - which could cause staffing issues on supervising changing rooms - which means they say no to it.

The guidance says that schools can choose single sex PE for safety or for fairness. This is single sex - so social transitioning is irrelevant - these students go to their sex PE provision and use their facilities.

This means that if neither fairness nor safety is an issue then mixed sex sports provision is okay - which is how adult sports participation works (not competition)

If there is some mixed sex provision in some PE then the whole socially transitioning thing should be irrelevant and might be a good way for schools to deal with the issue. That said there may simply not be enough PE teachers to allow this - or space/sports facilities.

In terms of school competitive teams this be related to fairness - so sex segregated.

BiologicalRobot · 06/04/2026 13:54

If a boy is able to do a single sex sport with the girls due to social transition (which I thought Cass said was harmful btw), then what stops him from going in their changing rooms and toilets?

I knew Labour would be bad, but I didn't think I would hate them this much. Absolute shower of shine.

MyAmpleSheep · 06/04/2026 13:52

Womblingmerrily · 06/04/2026 13:47

I don't think there is any problem with saying a boy can do yoga with the girls but must use the boy's changing rooms.

I can see that there could be a supervision issue for the PE teacher though.

This itself could be the reason a school would say no

The men doing yoga don't come into the women's changing at my gym.

If it’s ok for even one boy to do yoga with girls then it must be open to all boys. If it’s not ok for all boys then it’s not ok for one “special” boy.

The guidance should require schools to re-evaluate whether the activities they offer genuinely need to be sex segregated, and then if they do need to be, that’s a hard line they are required to stick to in law.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 06/04/2026 13:51

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spannasaurus · 06/04/2026 13:51

Pingponghavoc · 06/04/2026 13:41

I think a lot of people think of 'trans kids' as being 7, or someone who the class has known. only as presenting as the opposite sex for the whole of their school life.

What about the 15 year old boys who discovers his inner trans? Why would girls be happy to be in a yoga class with him?

It's always a young child used as an example as they don't want you to think about the post pubescent boys.

MyAmpleSheep · 06/04/2026 13:51

Womblingmerrily · 06/04/2026 13:45

But single sex sports at a competitive level is entirely different from school PE which might be single sex, or mixed sex, or predominantly one with a few boys/girls requesting to join the others - and that being assessed carefully depending on safety/fairness and other aspects to the wider group. (and not necessarily having anything to do with gender ideology at all)

This is about school PE, not competitive sports guidance.

No, it’s about sport. Which in schools takes place within the structure of PE, but it refers specifically to sport.

daffodilandtulip · 06/04/2026 13:50

My daughter was injured in 2021 by a boy identifying as a girl who was playing netball with the girls and using their changing room. The school would not have anything said against it, as the boy “was at risk playing football with the boys”. It went as far as ofsted in the end but the boy was still allowed.

Womblingmerrily · 06/04/2026 13:47

I don't think there is any problem with saying a boy can do yoga with the girls but must use the boy's changing rooms.

I can see that there could be a supervision issue for the PE teacher though.

This itself could be the reason a school would say no

The men doing yoga don't come into the women's changing at my gym.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 06/04/2026 13:46

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Womblingmerrily · 06/04/2026 13:45

But single sex sports at a competitive level is entirely different from school PE which might be single sex, or mixed sex, or predominantly one with a few boys/girls requesting to join the others - and that being assessed carefully depending on safety/fairness and other aspects to the wider group. (and not necessarily having anything to do with gender ideology at all)

This is about school PE, not competitive sports guidance.

AthenaWhite · 06/04/2026 13:44

Bloody awful civil servants imposing their misogynistic religious beliefs on us. I despise them.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 06/04/2026 13:44

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Shedmistress · 06/04/2026 13:43

PrettyDamnCosmic · 06/04/2026 13:41

The govt are planning to change the law. In order to avoid having to enforce sex based protections for women and girls.

Do you have a link or is this just your personal speculation?

Yes they are reviewing the Equality Act provisions.

Shedmistress · 06/04/2026 13:42

HermioneWeasley · 06/04/2026 13:38

I’m baffled. If sports or activities are separated by sex then boys can’t participate with girls regardless of their unverifiable feelings about themselves.

if the sport or activity is mixed sex then anyone can participate.

Quite. If single sex sports exists for a reason then who is anyone not of that sex to say the reason is null and void if they say so.

Pingponghavoc · 06/04/2026 13:41

I think a lot of people think of 'trans kids' as being 7, or someone who the class has known. only as presenting as the opposite sex for the whole of their school life.

What about the 15 year old boys who discovers his inner trans? Why would girls be happy to be in a yoga class with him?

HermioneWeasley · 06/04/2026 13:41

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They are a party of total misogynists.

they will destroy women’s rights and gay rights on one hand to appease the trans activists and from the other end to appease the Islamists.

I hate them

PrettyDamnCosmic · 06/04/2026 13:41

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The govt are planning to change the law. In order to avoid having to enforce sex based protections for women and girls.

Do you have a link or is this just your personal speculation?

Shedmistress · 06/04/2026 13:38

AStonedRose · 06/04/2026 13:22

There's nothing in the policy that 'pretends a boy is a girl'?

It allows a 10-year-old girl to enjoy a game of tennis or whatever else against a 10-year-old trans kid.

Sorry, but you're tilting at windmills here.

No it forces a girl to play tennis with a boy if he wants to.