lol! Some people actually believe it!

On the eve of the Spanish Armada’s failed invasion in 1588, Elizabeth famously said: “I know I have the body of a weak and feeble woman, but I have the heart and stomach of a king.”

Male feelz - got it 😂😂😂😂

Why? Is this just a tv or do some actually believe this?

No historic figure was “trans” as the concept was only invented about 50-60 years ago by men getting hormones, fake boobs & genital surgery.

this audacious and original show to the screen. The brilliant scripts are a directors’ dream as we get to re-imagine and recreate an iconic piece of English history and tell a period story that looks stunning but also feels modern and relevant to todays’ viewer.”

AUDACIOUS
and ORIGINAL!!!

and so relevant.

Think the archive website was malfunctioning yesterday. Here’s an archived version of the Telegraph article:

https://archive.ph/xABJm

Exactly. Although it was probably more like 100 years ago that it started (Lili Elbe).

That and add an "OFFS!" too.

Basically any woman who has ever achieved anything, ever. Let men appropriate all their achievements why don’t we.

Only high born women who had their actual labour and delivery witnessed by a crowd of officials could be beyond this claim.

Grrrr!

And as long as she didn't marry, she could use her single status as a negotiating chip in diplomatic relations with foreign powers. She was a very canny operator.

She didn't marry because her role would have been usurped by the male. She wanted to be fully in control. Simple.

All non-conforming women must be men. It’s the only way to explain them. All women must be dolls. If you’re not a doll, you’re not a real woman.

So interesting. It hadn't clicked.

She did have romantic relationships. Possibly with the Earl of Essex and certainly with Robert Dudley. It is patently obvious why she did not marry. She couldn't. In the Royal pecking order at the time, a king was superior to a queen. Since she could not marry a commoner, suggested marriages, to scions of the royal houses of Europe would have rendered her junior to her husband and made England a vassal state. This is why, today, the wife of a male momarch is Queen, but if the monarch is female, her husband is Prince Consort.

Blackadder did it better:

Nursie recalls the birth of Queenie, exclaiming: "A boy without a winkle? God be praised, it is a miracle. A boy without a winkle!".

If Elizabeth I was male it would have been shouted from the rooftops at the time of her birth.

Yes, obviously! Henry VIII got through six wives in his desperation to get a male ‘heir and a spare’. His only son died young, as did Henry’s own older brother.

As PP have said, this is just a continuation of the old male-supremacist dogma that women are useless.

Or why would Edward have been King first? So pig ignorant.

Entirely beside the point but that's given me a mental image of a cartwheel farthingale that is an actual wheel, so the skirt could be spun independently of the dress. You'd be the sensation of the court.

It doesn't seem to have occurred to any of these idiots that, if Queen Elizabeth had been a boy, there would have been no need for Henry VIII to get rid of Anne Boleyn in his desperation to sire an heir.

Me too, utterly sick of this woman hating shit. We are being gaslit, told that any woman who achieved anything must have really been a man. It's as if Women's Liberation movement never happened. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Oooooo I love a “was elizabeth I a man” thread. It gives me the opportunity to mention our local folklore.

Apparently Henry VIII was on a hunting trip in our local forest and brought baby Elizabeth with him. Sadly the young princess died and the only red head headed baby the villagers could find was a a boy. So they did a swap!

This story has been going around here for many many years!!

Honestly!!!!!!!!!!!

Sometimes wonder on threads whether having an OP with a link to a newspaper article is worth doing.

First of all the article in the OP is the Telegraph article.

Secondly, as I pointed out up thread the article makes clear this is a piss take.

This is just pumping out trendy tv because not just the tv channels but sadly much of the population thinks being trans friendly shows how up to date you are.

It is, at best, artistic licence, using a discredited Bram Stoker story for no other reason than to make money.

Its not claiming too be an historical documentary.

It is like the Other Bennet Sister which shows London in the early part of the 19th century to be happily multi-racial.