Conference plunged into turmoil over priority 'equity cards' eg trans woman furious a biological woman allowed to go first

Alex makes King Charles look common.

See also Corbyn's former chief of staff Andrew Drummond-Murray of Mastrik, who prefers to just go by "Andrew Murray" when being a man of the people.

There's a surprising number of prominent communists in Debrett's.

Cf Britain's poshest communist Alex Kalinicos

Many such cases!

He's not just any white male, he is a nepo baby. His father was a former leader of the party and his wife is a very famous activist/writer. His family is extremely famous and wealthy (ironically for a party that is supposed to be for the "working-class")

@Echobelly !!! You're not Sonia are you

I didn't read the DM article.

I saw vids on X. The whole thing was ridiculous.

Not in a 'this is chaos' way, but more in a 'this is the kind of nonsense so-called intelligent people are spending their time on' way.

Tbh, it doesn't sound like it was 'chaos' or 'turmoil' at all. Some people made criticisms of a system and the writer decided that the speaker 'seemed a bit testy' about being misgendered. Maybe they were, maybe that was entirely the writer's projection, but unless you were there you'll never know I guess.

What I do know is the Mail has a vested interest in portraying women and left wing people, and especially left wing women, as silly, petty and hysterical, so I'm calling hyperbole on their description of what happened. Don't get me wrong, as a lefty myself I think leftist people can be daft and nitpicky, but it feels like this Mail report is making mountains out of molehills.

It's like when papers have headline about 'CELEB'S FURY OVER INCIDENT' and it turns out they expressed no more than mild disapproval about something

Unless he wears a she/her badge, in which case he boings straight up into top position.

I keep trying to figure out how the Cleese/ Barker / Corbet class sketch would work with intersectionality but I can't compute. I think they'd have to be on moving platforms or a see saw

The loony left continue to outdo themselves.

What a bunch of f*cking muppets.

They need to go do some manual labour/shelf stacking/caring jobs for a while and then come back and talk to us about their 'oppression' 🙄

And yet a straight white male is the new leader. Truly, plus ça change,plus c'est la même chose. But agree on the inveigling.

I’d laugh if it wasn’t so worrying that these clowns have inveigled their way into institutions.

Actually what they need to do is have a major conference to compile a thorough list of who trumps who in victimhood. Obviously a straight white male is absolutely at the bottom (sub bottom, really) but who will come out on top? Interesting!

Yeah, daily mail and that.

Oh Canada.

Hang on, Naomi Klein's husband is the new leader? For someone who doesn't believe in capitalism, she's got a very entrepreneurial attitude to the family business.

Reading about this on wiki and the nomination rules hurt my brain:

To be nominated, candidates require at least 500 signatures from party members, at least half of which must be from female-identified members and at least 100 from "other equity-seeking groups," including Indigenous people, LGBTQIA2S+ people, persons with disabilities, and visible minorities.

That Daily Mail article reads like a Saturday Night Live skit. Especially when you find out that the one in the keffiyeh who got snapped at for misgendering the chair is ALSO non binary.

I despair that this is reality.

The all time classic, as posted elsewhere, is from the DSA, the US equivalent of the Socialist Workers Party (but maybe not with the cover ups of sexual assault)

Thanks for the link, the Victim Olympics sponsored by the Omnicause. 😂

@Abhannmor I guess it depends on how we’re defining eloquent but I’m using it for when people seemingly sound plausible and in doing so are persuasive. Such people can also be verbose and fool people in this manner. It’s dangerous. One of my very early experiences of TRAs advocacy was watching the YouTube posted by the trans man Jamie and partner. Both criticising JKRs essay. Both talking a million miles an hour so verbose, yes. Both attributing claims to JKR that she had not made, but also sounded eloquent in doing so. Both have PhDs so practiced in the art of using rhetoric to say nothing. Both sounding plausible to my then teenager DCs being swayed by their eloquence.

@TempestTost learn something new every day as I didn’t appreciate it was the CCF, the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation under Tommy Douglas that started nationalised (provincial) healthcare and not the once proud NDP.

Again we see evidence of how gender ideology tag teams with progressive or liberal organisations and ruins them from the inside out. It’s criminal.

It's exactly like that.

And as always with this stuff, it's part comical, part terrifying. You can laugh at these loons but then you discover, as a PP said, that this woman was instrumental in taking money away from a women's rape crisis centre, and it's not so funny after all.

Are these nutters really eloquent. Or just verbose , loquacious, whatever the word is ? I know what you mean though. I had a friend we used to call Many Words a Minute. You could never process her output fast enough to argue back. But at least she wasn't a little proto fascist like Citizen Smith here.

Interesting that the woman who addressed her as Madame Chair is wearing a keffiyeh. Will there be a split I wonder.

What a pathetic farce!

A transgender woman who argued her 'rights are under attack' claimed it was 'frustrating' that a 'cis gender woman had spoken over me.'

Of course the irony is that it's the transwoman, and indeed transwomen in general, who are actually trying to 'skip the queue' - by choosing to identify into a group they categorically do not belong to, which is more disadvantaged than their own.

It is impressive that the VRR still manages to centre females.

Being girls and women in this world often impacts both how we look and how we act in private and in public; what we are allowed to do, encouraged to do, and rewarded for; and also, what we are discouraged from doing, prohibited to do, or punished for. And from that place, in a woman-only space, with other women—who have the shared experience of being born without a choice to the oppressed class of women—we come together to organize and strategize our resistance and our fight for all women’s liberation.

We know that people whose behaviour is not consistent with the patriarchal socially imposed definition of manhood or womanhood, including trans people, suffer discrimination and violence. Trans people deserve and must live in safety, and have the equal rights and opportunities that are promised to us all. While some of our core services are not open to people who do not share our life experience of being born females and raised as girls into our current womanhood, we have a collective commitment to see to the safety anyone who calls our crisis line, including trans people.