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School Registration Form - pushing gender identity

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BreatheAndFocus · 29/03/2026 18:14

DC has been accepted at a secondary school and I’m filling out the registration form (name, address, etc etc). What has pissed me off massively though is the questions about gender identity. They’re asked in such a way to imply that everyone has a gender identity, and there’s no way to say DC hasn’t, or to omit the question (because it’s online and you have to answer all questions).

The choices are: Male, Female, Self-Describe. That’s it. No way to say you don’t have one and don’t believe in this crap stuff.

Surely this isn’t neutral? It’s pushing a belief. Is this allowed?

(Note - ticking Self Describe didn’t bring up a box I could type None in, it just stayed a tick. My concern with that is that activist teachers will be rushing up to DC and asking whether they’re enby, Otherkin, etc etc.)

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GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:37

Given free reign, the child would just tick female or male and habe ignored the other bit and got on with their day

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Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 12:29

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:24

I didnt ever say it didnt, did I? As your re saying, it works BOTH ways. One way, AND the other.

I cannot work out what your post is trying to suggest?

Transgenderism is an adult concept foisted onto children to satisfy adult feelings and political ideologies - including by some schools and activist teachers.
No child understands what 'gender identity' means without an adult explaining it to them first.

You suggested the mother in question had hot housed her child to reject 'gender identity' and that given free reign to fill in the form herself, the child may well have understood what it meant. Is that what you are suggesting?

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:25

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 09:55

One minute you think a child has adult responsibility - then the next you don't think they can articulate anything for themselves?

What child do I think has adult responsibility? Are you stalking wrong?

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:25

SternJoyousBeev2 · 30/03/2026 10:27

Apparently only speshul children are capable of clearly articulating their truth. Those speshul children being all the more remarkable as apparently they can speak their truth as toddlers.

No I just think 11 year olds wouldnt even be thinking about this unless their parents obsess about it.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:24

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 09:57

It works the other way round too. 'Trans/gender identity' is an adult concept foisted onto children in order to validate adult ideologies and fantasies.

I left teaching in 2010 - and nobody had heard of 'gender identity' let alone have one. It simply wasn't a thing.

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I didnt ever say it didnt, did I? As your re saying, it works BOTH ways. One way, AND the other.

Imbrocator · 30/03/2026 12:16

Not sure if it’s already been said, but another way to tackle it is to email the school concerning not being able to skip that question and point out how uncomfortable it made your child to be forced to describe their identity before they were ready. Ridiculous that they even asked in the first place as it’s not relevant at all to their role, but if they are asking they should at least do so with a modicum of sensitivity. This approach might be a better option if you’re worried about coming at it from a sex realist perspective.

LaraLiving · 30/03/2026 10:30

This for real?
female and male are sexes. Not gender identity.
you are either one of the two sexes. Until you aren’t. But you can have a fluid identity to your hearts content.

SternJoyousBeev2 · 30/03/2026 10:27

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 09:55

One minute you think a child has adult responsibility - then the next you don't think they can articulate anything for themselves?

Apparently only speshul children are capable of clearly articulating their truth. Those speshul children being all the more remarkable as apparently they can speak their truth as toddlers.

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · 30/03/2026 10:03

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 29/03/2026 22:31

Under GDPR they shouldn't be asking for any personal data that isn't necessary and relevant, especially potentially sensitive data. "Gender identity" also isn't a protected characteristic for EqA purposes, so they wouldn't be able to use that to justify it (at best, they might be able to justify asking whether someone has the PC of "gender reassignment", but the two are not the same). So you may be able to challenge it on that basis.

This is important! The school is on very dodgy ground, keeping this kind of information on children.

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 09:57

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 07:41

I just know the majority of 11 year olds wouldnt care unless they've been hot housed by a obsessed parent.

It works the other way round too. 'Trans/gender identity' is an adult concept foisted onto children in order to validate adult ideologies and fantasies.

I left teaching in 2010 - and nobody had heard of 'gender identity' let alone have one. It simply wasn't a thing.

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 09:55

GlovedhandsCecilia · 29/03/2026 18:39

So your 11 year old child wasnt happy with jusg ticking male or female, but THEY wanted to specifically note that they do not believe in gender identities and don't have one?

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CjmbfAuGv/

One minute you think a child has adult responsibility - then the next you don't think they can articulate anything for themselves?

SternJoyousBeev2 · 30/03/2026 09:51

I just know the majority of 11 year olds wouldnt care unless they've been hot housed by a obsessed parent.

yes, gender ideologues absolutely hot house their kids and impose their activist language on them. Its definitely an obsession with them.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 07:41

BreatheAndFocus · 29/03/2026 20:09

Ooh, nod nod wink wink, eh? 🤣 🤣

A PP has kindly explained the link and it’s irrelevant and actually reflects badly on you if you think children about to move to secondary school are incapable of answering questions or forming opinions.

I just know the majority of 11 year olds wouldnt care unless they've been hot housed by a obsessed parent.

MrsColinRobinson · 29/03/2026 22:43

I had to fill one recently for a school residential which had clearly been created by the teacher organising the trip who hadn't set up the MS form to restricted inputs.

I patted myself on the back at my restraint by simply added 'sigh'. Passive aggressive admittedly but it was about as polite as I could manage.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 29/03/2026 22:31

Under GDPR they shouldn't be asking for any personal data that isn't necessary and relevant, especially potentially sensitive data. "Gender identity" also isn't a protected characteristic for EqA purposes, so they wouldn't be able to use that to justify it (at best, they might be able to justify asking whether someone has the PC of "gender reassignment", but the two are not the same). So you may be able to challenge it on that basis.

StillWeRise · 29/03/2026 20:55

that link refers to 'gender' not sex 😮

SirChenjins · 29/03/2026 20:46

titchy · 29/03/2026 20:28

It’ll form part of their submission to the National Pupil Database:

https://www.find-npd-data.education.gov.uk/categories

Looks like it. OP - it's under 'demographics', so maybe worth contacting them via the email address in that section to point out their error?

titchy · 29/03/2026 20:28

BreatheAndFocus · 29/03/2026 18:51

Thank you 😊 No, there are no questions about religion or politics. Just name, address, birth sex, gender identity, pronouns, parent details, health, emergency info.

I do wonder what they do with the data.

It’ll form part of their submission to the National Pupil Database:

https://www.find-npd-data.education.gov.uk/categories

BreatheAndFocus · 29/03/2026 20:09

GlovedhandsCecilia · 29/03/2026 19:11

The people that are will see it and understand

Ooh, nod nod wink wink, eh? 🤣 🤣

A PP has kindly explained the link and it’s irrelevant and actually reflects badly on you if you think children about to move to secondary school are incapable of answering questions or forming opinions.

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BreatheAndFocus · 29/03/2026 20:05

Raquelos · 29/03/2026 19:42

It's just some passive-aggressive BS about parents who think their children are gifted. It doesn't reflect well on the poster that they think 10-year-olds can't recognise the silliness of gender ideology or decide that they aren't going to engage, after all, it's not complicated.

Oh! 😂 I wasn’t expecting it to be that! 🤣 How silly to think that a Y6 child can’t contribute to a form 😂 DC has their own opinions and is perfectly capable of comprehending questions. What a daft link to put! My DC isn’t gifted, just a normal 10yr old!

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Raquelos · 29/03/2026 19:42

GlovedhandsCecilia · 29/03/2026 19:11

The people that are will see it and understand

It's just some passive-aggressive BS about parents who think their children are gifted. It doesn't reflect well on the poster that they think 10-year-olds can't recognise the silliness of gender ideology or decide that they aren't going to engage, after all, it's not complicated.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 29/03/2026 19:11

BreatheAndFocus · 29/03/2026 18:56

Yes. I filled in the form alongside them and they gave me input like their preferred name (their forename can be shortened various ways) and so on. DC said they didn’t have a gender identity. Why would they tick male or female??They’d already ticked that for the Birth Sex question.

And they’re 10 not 11.

No idea what your FB link is because none of us are on FB.

The people that are will see it and understand

SirChenjins · 29/03/2026 18:58

There's lots of information online and on MN about why asking for pronouns and GI are not neutral acts, especially when it forces people who might be gender questioning to declare them before they are ready to. This article might helpful https://www.legalfeminist.org.uk/2020/07/19/pronouns-compulsion-and-controversy/

BreatheAndFocus · 29/03/2026 18:56

GlovedhandsCecilia · 29/03/2026 18:39

So your 11 year old child wasnt happy with jusg ticking male or female, but THEY wanted to specifically note that they do not believe in gender identities and don't have one?

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CjmbfAuGv/

Yes. I filled in the form alongside them and they gave me input like their preferred name (their forename can be shortened various ways) and so on. DC said they didn’t have a gender identity. Why would they tick male or female??They’d already ticked that for the Birth Sex question.

And they’re 10 not 11.

No idea what your FB link is because none of us are on FB.

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