Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

I have taken offense and I’ve explained why. I’m not calling trans people predators becuase they’re trans. It’s hate speech.

We’re not in prison thank god. What are your stats for gen pop?

So was the other poster, you just didn't like the way that poster writes.

You seem to be taking an awful lot of offense at some random posts on an internet forum.

Still wondering how allowing Dave to get his knob out in women's spaces is the "pragmatic" and yea "strategic" move that's totally going to secure women't spaces.

One might speculate that Dave getting his knob out is the desired end point, and everything else is just rationalisation.

We have similar conclusions. Don’t fight each other, fight the real problem. Which I don’t think jkr is doing when she gets into it with tras online.
im going to leave this convo now. Some of you have been nice to talk to. Some of you have tone policed me after accusing me of doing it to jkr. Some of you are actually highly problematic and immature and like jk, isolating people who would have supported you.
men do help secure women’s rights if theyre allies. Insulting people who would have helped you is not strategic in my book

Right. So why is there any need to give women's proections to sad men, to the detriment of women? Why not protect these the sad men in the ways you are going to protect the other vulnerable men?

You really need to read up on prison stats.

Men who say rhey are women are in jail for sexual offences at a rate 3 times higher than men who do not say they are women.

And a man who enters a female single sex space automatically is a predator because it is part of predatory behaviour. This is all well known stuff.

you’re explaining facts. Worryingly, as prison is not representative of general population, but that is different to hate speech. You show well how we can do this without insulting people or making blanket statements that are purposefully offensive. I’m not gonna be involved in hate speech or breaking the law

Trans-identifying men are often predatory:

https://reduxx.info/transgender-youth-advocate-charged-with-rape-of-infant-girl-in-washington/

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-transgender-pedophile-convicted-of-raping-4-year-old-girl-files-legal-claim-requesting-transfer-to-womens-prison/

https://reduxx.info/australia-transgender-pedophile-who-raped-5-year-old-daughter-now-suing-womens-prison-for-human-rights-violations/

https://reduxx.info/transgender-reddit-moderator-deletes-account-after-being-exposed-as-registered-child-sex-offender/

I know you won't secure women's rights by giving them away.

You won't secure women's rights by diluting the idea of womanhood to include some men based on feelings.

What you will do is create a world where women's rights are harder and harder to justify, because you've disconnected the social concept of "women" from the underlying experiences and challenges that women's rights exist for.

There are plenty of ways to support and protect people who believe they have trans identities without treating them like they actually are the opposite sex. It is a TRA manipulation to pretend the only possible solution involves taking from men to give to men.

And by God do they want to keep you focused on that, on the question of just where on a line between women and men trans women get to be, instead of you asking the very simple question of why should they be on that line at all when in reality they are just men?

I'm watching the BBC news at the moment. A report about how non crime hate incidents have been scrapped and the police will no longer be attending or investigating reports.

TRAs can no longer weaponise the police when they don't like what people post online

Men who identify as women are just as likely to be a predator as every other man on the planet. In fact the prison stats show they are actually MORE likely to be than your average man.

You may not like that fact but it's not hate speech.

I don’t think they’ll do anything but hopefully she’ll think twice before making comments like that.

My belief is that everyone has a moral right to protection and we all have a duty to provide it

For calling all trans women predators yes. It’s hate speech. It she said it about a gay person or a black person or anyone else id report it too.
its hate speech this is not hard.

I see we escalated pretty quickly from "JK should be more strategic and she'd win friends for her positions that I support" to "you big meanies are all getting dobbed in to the rozzers"

Hang on. Really? You want MNHQ to report a poster to the police? For what? Disagreeing with you? Because, as you say yourself, you won't cope with being tone policed and called not a feminist?

Wow!

The statistics show that trans people are in fact the least marginalised and the least vulnerable of all protected groups:

thecritic.co.uk/neither-marginalised-abused-nor-vulnerable/

You know who suffers the most violence and indeed murders at the hands of men? Other men.

Plenty of men are vulnerable. Plenty of men fear attacks by other men. Plenty of men find all male spaces intimidating or unpleasant. Plenty of men are no threat to women.

And yet, only one group of men are seen by people like you as having a moral right to the protections that are supposed to be for women.

It's very weird.

Do you see why I think this is just embarassing to be hateful though and not cool? You can’t accuse others of bullying you if you bully others. You can’t play the victim if you’re doing it to others. Why? Becuase people don’t respect hypocrites

😂😂

You might think this is funny but the police and the equality act won’t

We do, the difference between me and you is I’m pragmatic and you’re idealistic. It just depends which you think is more effective at securing women’s rights

😂

If she’d provided facts for this I would have coped but she didn’t. Trump is setting a bad example.
i will not cope with being tone policed and called not a feminist by someone who is tone policing and not a feminist. I hope mn report her to the police for hate speech; I honestly do. What you say online has consequences. People read it