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Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

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BlueSkiesAndSunshiiine · 29/03/2026 17:40

It's strange, isn't it? They really can't keep her name out of their mouths. Very baffling.

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lifeturnsonadime · 31/03/2026 13:26

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 11:45

Hahaha I’m not going to engage with you any more because you’re basically saying my moderate common beliefs (that all humans beings are worthy of dignity and respect and you have to practise what you preach) makes me a man, not a feminist, stupid, etc.
im not engaging with people who make silly claims, huge outlandish reaches and just want people to agree with them becuase like i told jkr, its just giving you guys airtime and making your beliefs have a bigger outreach.

i love having a little fanclub; clearly ive made an impact. Keep bitching about me #letthemspeak

You are not a feminist because you are more concerned about the feelings of men who identify as transwomen than you are about actual women.

Your beliefs are also neither moderate nor common.

It is not a moderate position to put the feelings of men who identify as women above the sex based rights of women.

It is also not a common belief, you only have to look at recent YouGov pollings to see that most people want single sex spaces to be for females only.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 12:42

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 11:45

Hahaha I’m not going to engage with you any more because you’re basically saying my moderate common beliefs (that all humans beings are worthy of dignity and respect and you have to practise what you preach) makes me a man, not a feminist, stupid, etc.
im not engaging with people who make silly claims, huge outlandish reaches and just want people to agree with them becuase like i told jkr, its just giving you guys airtime and making your beliefs have a bigger outreach.

i love having a little fanclub; clearly ive made an impact. Keep bitching about me #letthemspeak

No, we are saying that your failure to engage with the consequences of your fluffy little #BeKind position does not mean those consequences do not exist.

Your choice not to face the full consequences of your comfortable blinkers does not impose an obligation on everyone else not to point it out.

Because the truly brave, compassionate and honest position is to face those consequences, own them and deal with them not handwave them away as "nasty" or "less important than this other thing over there".

The number of trans women who pose a physical or sexual threat may be small vs those who don't (though women sureky derseve a higher bar than simply not being directly physically or sexually threatened, because we all know this world built for men brings disadvantages for us beyond just that) but they are the only men who are being allowed into women's supposedly single sex protections, and that does matter.

DialSquare · 31/03/2026 12:32

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 11:59

You’re right. I said it once. You guys kept tagging me and talking about me. I shouldn’t come back to engage. I should have better boundaries.
But like I said. Love my fans 😂😂😂

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Boiledbeetle · 31/03/2026 12:22

Fanclub?

Oh My God What GIF by The Bold Type
GreyskySexRealistsky · 31/03/2026 12:07

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 11:59

You’re right. I said it once. You guys kept tagging me and talking about me. I shouldn’t come back to engage. I should have better boundaries.
But like I said. Love my fans 😂😂😂

Turn your notifications off

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 12:03

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 11:59

You’re right. I said it once. You guys kept tagging me and talking about me. I shouldn’t come back to engage. I should have better boundaries.
But like I said. Love my fans 😂😂😂

Be sure to run back to reddit now. You lasted less than a day before outing yourself. Pathetic.

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 11:59

GreyskySexRealistsky · 31/03/2026 11:57

"I’m not coming back"

Er........?

You’re right. I said it once. You guys kept tagging me and talking about me. I shouldn’t come back to engage. I should have better boundaries.
But like I said. Love my fans 😂😂😂

MoistVonL · 31/03/2026 11:58

Butterfly, you have conflated transwomen who enter women's single sex spaces (who are engaging in predatory behaviour by entering spaces that are specifically designed to be NOT for them) with ALL transwomen.

That's why you claim a PP called all transwomen predators. She didn't.

Thankfully there are transwomen who respect women and use the mixed sex or men's spaces. They acknowledge they are transwomen, a subset of men, and not women. They don't apply for female only jobs, demand inclusion in the WI, get changed in the women's changing room at the pool.

Men are at risk from male violence. Subsets of men - gay, disabled, ND, nonconforming, trans-identifying and others - are more at risk that others. That doesn't mean women have to budge up to make them feel better.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 31/03/2026 11:57

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 11:45

Hahaha I’m not going to engage with you any more because you’re basically saying my moderate common beliefs (that all humans beings are worthy of dignity and respect and you have to practise what you preach) makes me a man, not a feminist, stupid, etc.
im not engaging with people who make silly claims, huge outlandish reaches and just want people to agree with them becuase like i told jkr, its just giving you guys airtime and making your beliefs have a bigger outreach.

i love having a little fanclub; clearly ive made an impact. Keep bitching about me #letthemspeak

"I’m not coming back"

Er........?

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 11:45

Hahaha I’m not going to engage with you any more because you’re basically saying my moderate common beliefs (that all humans beings are worthy of dignity and respect and you have to practise what you preach) makes me a man, not a feminist, stupid, etc.
im not engaging with people who make silly claims, huge outlandish reaches and just want people to agree with them becuase like i told jkr, its just giving you guys airtime and making your beliefs have a bigger outreach.

i love having a little fanclub; clearly ive made an impact. Keep bitching about me #letthemspeak

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 11:34

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:16

If that were even remotely true, you'd called out the TRAs for starting beefs with her, not the victim for responding. What you are doing here is more than clear especially for someone who only joined yesterday and came straight to FWR and then defended reddit. We aren't fools. This happens at least once a months here.

I'm pretty sure I've engaged with the poster several times under different names. The style and pattern are extremely familiar, the "I won't talk to you because you say all trans people are peedators", the lovely sad trans friend and the "now this is a good feminist thing to talk about instead of trans boundary transgressions" pivot.

SockPlant · 31/03/2026 11:28

Mmmnotsure · 31/03/2026 10:02

The Year of the Squirrel 2018 I think.

the year of the Fruitbat(shittery)

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:21

Back to reddit he scarpers. Tail between legs.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:18

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:23

Ok now that’s a stretch.
its not racist to say that the technology that found out about her dsd is pretty new and wouldn’t have historically been available?

The technology is 60 years old! And he knew at puberty!

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:17

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:20

I’m not uncomfortable. You’re not actually engaging with my main point.
so I will ask you.
how does baiting an aggressive group for 5/6 years online help her cause instead of distract and give them airtime?

Except she hasn't. They have baited her. It's disingenuous to lie.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:16

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:15

My issue is not with what jkr says but her beefing with tras online. Please can you stop putting words in my mouth?

If that were even remotely true, you'd called out the TRAs for starting beefs with her, not the victim for responding. What you are doing here is more than clear especially for someone who only joined yesterday and came straight to FWR and then defended reddit. We aren't fools. This happens at least once a months here.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:13

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:10

Well we can now do gender affirming care and identify dsds. Semenya is a good example. Clearly not out to hurt women, has no actual choice and genuinely wouldn’t have known had the technology not improved so much

Semenya knew at puberty when he ejaculated instead of getting a period. He knew. Entering a race designed for females when he knew he was male hurts women. You don't get to adulthood and not go to the Drs about why you are ejaculating and not getting a period.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:09

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:54

I just think if a man wants to follow you into a public toilet and assault you, a little picture on the door isn’t going to stop him.
and pretending it does gives a false sense of security

If a burglar is so determined to break into your house, a locked door won't stop him so why bother locking your doors at night?

If a hoon is so determined to speed, speed cameras won't stop him, so why bother having speed limits?

Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them
SockPlant · 31/03/2026 11:08

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 01:11

Well it’s also group with lived social experiences of male violence, who frequently fear it as much as women do. There are a few bad apples like in every group yes. but I feel by focusing on them jk is isolating a lot of people who would be very sympathetic to her cause.
ill check the book rec thank you! I’m very interested in power and how perceptions are more important than the truth when it comes to influence.

I'll be needing actual hard numbers for that.

But... you actually can't provide them because of the police and others adhering to the TRAs bonkers requirement to record gender rather than sex. And this is one reason that i am adamant that police (etc) should always record biological sex and they can add on GI if they want to (it helps with hard facts)

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:05

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:35

You can’t though. Not really. Even in prisons some staff will have to be male. Cleaners in toilets might be male. If men want to do this they have plenty of opportunities besides pretending to be transgender.
do you see my point?

So you throw your hands up and give in.

Cleaners put signs up first and usually close the toilets. We've been through this hundreds of times on this site.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:04

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:33

all humans are a potential threat to all humans. Statistically men are the biggest threat within this group.
can we focus on why that is rather than a minority group that are determined to distract from the main issue, vawg?

Again, men are 50% of the population. They are the oppressor sex. They are not a minority group.

SockPlant · 31/03/2026 11:04

spannasaurus · 31/03/2026 00:09

How many male rapists in womens prison are you willing to tolerate to avoid saying anything that might upset transwomen

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(i know i know, but I'm waiting for a train and i am bored so this is entertaining and infuriating me while i wait)

no need to ask this question: we already know the answer is n+1

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:02

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:31

See I have no problem with this viewpoint because it’s women focused and not attacking a marginalised group. It’s not hard. Yes it probably is sexist to feel that we need such strict gender roles that people find experiences as living as the other so distressing they need to change it. This is interesting. This I like engaging with.
abusing trans people no not interested

The marginalised group is females. Not males.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:00

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:21

I have taken offense and I’ve explained why. I’m not calling trans people predators becuase they’re trans. It’s hate speech.

Good thing I didn't call trans people predators because they're trans.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 10:58

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:12

For calling all trans women predators yes. It’s hate speech. It she said it about a gay person or a black person or anyone else id report it too.
its hate speech this is not hard.

Do not lie about me, I never said all transwomen are predators. That would be libel and actionable.

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