Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

Well that’s the thing. We have legislation in place where any man can just say he is a woman. It’s not restricted in any shape or form. Anyone can do it. That’s why it makes absolutely no sense to suggest that simply saying I’m a woman gives a man extra rights. As it is until a person gets a GRC they are both legally and biologically male. So realistically they are men who wear dresses.

In my experience the trans people who obsess on JK Rowling are really mentally unwell people. The level of abuse they have thrown her way does not come from happy, secure, stable people. She has absolutely nothing to do with their behaviour nor their issues.

Trans women have been using those bathrooms for years and have gone unnoticed.

That's not true though. Even if we didn't say anything, that doesn't mean we didn't notice. I don't particularly like to say this, but TIMs who can pass as female - at least at a glance - are extremely rare. If women don't confront them, that's because women are understandably nervous about confronting men.

I can say I don't like to say this, because I have an old friend who is that very rare thing - a transwoman who passes well, not perfectly, but well enough that you'd notice if you were paying close attention, but probably not if you were just going on a passing encounter. Do I think my friend should use women's facilities? It used to not bother me, but these days I'd say no, because you've only got my word for it that they're harmless.

As for JKR, it's remarkable how vehement TRAs are when they argue that a woman with personal experience of male violence doesn't have the right to an opinion on whether men should be allowed into female spaces.

They didn't go unnoticed.

Which one of the things you mentioned is actually 'offensive' and why?

I would suggest that some people are as unhinged about Trump as they are about JKR. But yes, agree with everything else you said.

Oh so you think that women's rights and the truth are transphobic?

Well she has misgendered trans women and liked comments by others who have done the same or referred to trans women as men in dresses.
She talked about “throwing open the bathroom doors” to any man who said he was a woman. She is creating a false climate of fear. Trans women have been using those bathrooms for years and have gone unnoticed. You said ONE thing. I hope this will suffice.

She’s pretty up front somewhere in an interview where she says that if she were growing up now with her own circumstances she thought she’d be wanting to identity ad trans. Annoyingly I can only find a report of it in Pink News rather than the interview . I suspect that level of introspection hacks of TRAs no end as it touches too many never, and is a degree of insight that navel gazing and self absorption really can’t deliver

www.thepinknews.com/2020/06/10/jk-rowling-trans-terf-essay-transphobia-gender-identity-dysphoria-mental-health-harry-potter/

A pattern in trans people who are very active on social media is that they all have very obsessive thoughts. That has lead me to believe that having a predisposition obsessive thoughts might be something that leads someone to being transgender.

I think this is very close to the mark. The determination with which some trans-identified people or self-declared allies project their own spluttering hate on to JKR when she has never actually expressed anything of that nature in public is not rational behaviour.

I know parents of trans identified adolescents (and had a trans identified adult female relative who has now quietly desisted) who have managed to navigate supporting their child without losing their minds, so for those who have thrown themselves fully behind "JKR hates trans people, TERFS want to kill trans people" I can only assume that this is a reflection of something that lies within.

He's also the most powerful man in the world. It's plain fact that he holds significant influence over everyone's lives. There's no real equivalent, and even a cultural figure as significant as JKR certainly isn't it.

Apparently she has caused pile-ons by being a famous person, with lots of followers, who has responded cuttingly to poor little downtrodden people such as India.

Name one, just ONE thing she has said that is half-way offensive, let alone offensive. Go on, one! I lay 10 to 1 you won't come back and list anything, @WaffleParty .

Sure, and I daresay their knowledge of the US is as superficial as their knowledge of Palestine, say. But I must admit I do bristle when people talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome". Yes, he that bad! He's crook and chancer who doesn't give a damn about the democratic process.

😂

You know what to buy them for their birthdays.
Copies of Harry Potter.

I have noticed this too.

I fell that it is rather like the USA and Canada - the US never really thinks about Canada (unless there is a Trump like leader) where as Canada thinks about the US all the time.

The same applies to Sweden and Denmark - Sweden don't think about Denmark that much but the Danes always think about Sweden.

I suppose that applies here to - us and the Irish?

And I mean no insult to Irish, Canadians or Danes!

I was entirely focused on my "big brother's friends." They did not even notice me...😁

A pattern in trans people who are very active on social media is that they all have very obsessive thoughts. That has lead me to believe that having a predisposition obsessive thoughts might be something that leads someone to being transgender.

There is a hugely overrepresenation of people on the ASD spectrum and young people that have experienced sexaul PTSD or cPTSD both of which lead to obsessive thoughts and actions

I believe that there is evidence most people from a very young age have periods where they don't feel at home in their bodies or in the social roles that their bodies are represented in. I wonder if being pre-disposed to obsessive thoughts and actions then raises the risk of the dysphoria from setting in.

I would also observe that JKR also exhibits obsessive personality traits. It would be interesting to know if she was the same age as the actors who played the kids in the movies which side of the debate she would fall on.

So it makes sense that people experiencing Trans- ideology would be obsessed with solving the "problem of JKR" and when she didn't tow the line she became a symbol rather than a person. The issue is she is giving back the same energy. I also agree that any cynical person who needs PR can just evoke the name JKR and gain a huge amount of (young) followers.

my then new daughter in law once said she had made transphobic comments. I asked her the same question and it turned her GC when she realised that it was not anti gay or homophobic to be suspicious of trans rights activism and propaganda.

This is all I’ve ever seen in response to this question.

What i love about her most is that she knows what an abusive narcissistic man looks and sounds like based on her own experiences, when she had no power at all in Portugal.

Now she has power and is prepared to look at these men straight in the tweet eye and sock it to them.

Thats why she doesn’t just flick IW of with a finger, a parasitic flea deserves, she gives him verbal dressing downs because it benefits us all.

Has anyone ever found an approach which trans+allies are willing to think about instead of falling into an instant foaming fit?

All I can think of is quotes of what she's actually said. But that doesn't seem to help. Is there anything?

The former newsreader with the Fiat is completely and utterly scarily obsessed with her.

@Mapletree1985 "Comparing people's critiques of Trump, an obviously wicked person, with the trans and allies relentless hatred towards JKR, a good person, is a textbook example of false equivalency."

The point isn't the similarity of the targets. It's the weird similarity of the perps.

Weird, because both groups think they have absolutely nothing in common.