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Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

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BlueSkiesAndSunshiiine · 29/03/2026 17:40

It's strange, isn't it? They really can't keep her name out of their mouths. Very baffling.

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CassOle · 30/03/2026 23:54

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:52

I find you more entertaining. People on Reddit tend to be a bit more open minded and polite

BlueSky is the winner for being 'open-minded and polite', surely?

CassOle · 30/03/2026 23:52

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:47

I’m not really sure what this has got to do with jk’s strategic choices and why this back and forth with tras is still going on but please enlighten me if you can explain?

'... attacking any marginalised group is just going to attract controversy and lose moderate supporters.'

Not all marginalised groups are equal. I think that your phrasing of 'any marginalised group' is too broad and not specific enough.

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:52

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I find you more entertaining. People on Reddit tend to be a bit more open minded and polite

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:51

Apollo441 · 30/03/2026 23:49

I think you need to show us where Ms Rowling attacks or misgenders anyone like Lily. My memory is very clear that she specifically identified 10 individuals and took them to task. People who were aggresive TRAs or taking opportunities from actual women. They all deserved it. I am not aware of any other occasion where she has routinely misgendered trans people. I think you owe it to us to bring it to our attention unless you regard the 10 individuals she did deliberately misgender as undeserving (and tell us why).

I never said she did. I said when people now think of terfs they think of their trans friends and feel uncomfortable and disengage from the debate, which is annoying because jkr has such a huge outreach but lots don’t want to get involved because of how controversial this now is.

BlueSkiesAndSunshiiine · 30/03/2026 23:49

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Apollo441 · 30/03/2026 23:49

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 22:19

Right but my argument isn’t about this: it’s about what jkr achieves by attacking people like Lily when most people know someone like this and love them deeply.
talk about that. Talk about why there needs to be more studies in mental health and trans youths. Look at studies about retransiitioning. share about sexism and pathologised trauma responses and peer influence and how it impacts everyone. But don’t go and bait tras who aren’t actually helping anyone and benefit off your platform.
Because then you see how this takes attention off Jkr’s cause (protecting women and girls) and instead gives more airtime to an issue which isn’t serving that?

I think you need to show us where Ms Rowling attacks or misgenders anyone like Lily. My memory is very clear that she specifically identified 10 individuals and took them to task. People who were aggresive TRAs or taking opportunities from actual women. They all deserved it. I am not aware of any other occasion where she has routinely misgendered trans people. I think you owe it to us to bring it to our attention unless you regard the 10 individuals she did deliberately misgender as undeserving (and tell us why).

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:47

CassOle · 30/03/2026 23:44

Remember PIE , the National Council for Civil Liberties and Harriet Harman. There is a very serious lesson there.

I’m not really sure what this has got to do with jk’s strategic choices and why this back and forth with tras is still going on but please enlighten me if you can explain?

CassOle · 30/03/2026 23:44

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:36

Idk if it’s just capitalism in general. You make so much money from constantly offering surgery, hormones, medication, specialist clothing and shoes etc. like I said, Machiavelli. If you can appear virtuous while doing bad things, you can justify anything. We need people like jkr to question but imho attacking any marginalised group is just going to attract controversy and lose moderate supporters.

Remember PIE , the National Council for Civil Liberties and Harriet Harman. There is a very serious lesson there.

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:36

murasaki · 30/03/2026 23:34

Transwomen are not women, so by calling them that you are being silly. They are male. So men, whatever clothes they wear.

I’m talking about myself. Posters are putting me down. I’m not getting into the semantics of it with you, I’ve already given that advice to jkr and I’m following it to the letter

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:36

2021x · 30/03/2026 23:30

This is interesting. I have thought a lot about JKR behaviour and how it has created a barrier for me, and unmasked a few peoples misogyny making the world a little bit more unsafe.

I still support her actions, and in a way they help me understand and be compassionate towards the actions of Trans people in fighting for what they view as their rights.

Where I think the issue is is the actions of the allies i.e gay men and the charities that were initially for same-sex people but have tried to apply the same tactics for transgender people in order to make money.

Idk if it’s just capitalism in general. You make so much money from constantly offering surgery, hormones, medication, specialist clothing and shoes etc. like I said, Machiavelli. If you can appear virtuous while doing bad things, you can justify anything. We need people like jkr to question but imho attacking any marginalised group is just going to attract controversy and lose moderate supporters.

Hedgehogforshort · 30/03/2026 23:34

@Deerinflashlights i think i am going to have to explain aren’t I Tsk.

Sturgeon, a primitive fish, a slow moving bottom feeding creature. (I Must admit I googled that to be sure, as fish are not an area of interest for me)

HTH

murasaki · 30/03/2026 23:34

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:32

how am I being a troll? Some of you have been very unkind to me. I had to report one poster for calling me stupid.

Transwomen are not women, so by calling them that you are being silly. They are male. So men, whatever clothes they wear.

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:32

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how am I being a troll? Some of you have been very unkind to me. I had to report one poster for calling me stupid.

2021x · 30/03/2026 23:30

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 16:55

I don’t disagree with her views. I disagree with her behaviour

This is interesting. I have thought a lot about JKR behaviour and how it has created a barrier for me, and unmasked a few peoples misogyny making the world a little bit more unsafe.

I still support her actions, and in a way they help me understand and be compassionate towards the actions of Trans people in fighting for what they view as their rights.

Where I think the issue is is the actions of the allies i.e gay men and the charities that were initially for same-sex people but have tried to apply the same tactics for transgender people in order to make money.

BlueSkiesAndSunshiiine · 30/03/2026 23:25

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Hedgehogforshort · 30/03/2026 23:20

Quick slug of cool aid, ahhh thats better.

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 23:09

Deerinflashlights · 30/03/2026 23:07

I like what you did there.

Calling someone else stupid while getting the name of a famous author wrong is definitely a choice

Deerinflashlights · 30/03/2026 23:07

Hedgehogforshort · 30/03/2026 22:59

Glad you all got the joke 😀

I like what you did there.

Hedgehogforshort · 30/03/2026 22:59

Glad you all got the joke 😀

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 22:58

Mmmnotsure · 30/03/2026 22:57

Niccola 😄

I know. I know. 🙈😂😂

Mmmnotsure · 30/03/2026 22:57

Hedgehogforshort · 30/03/2026 22:02

@butterfly231 well yes i have heard of Niccola Machiavelli, I read The Prince many moons ago, absolutely no clue WTF you are on about.

Niccola 😄

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 22:55

Shedmistress · 30/03/2026 22:48

I cannot even. Honestly. It's like 2018 in here today.

I know. So many people still think it’s cool to be the mean girl and put other women down online 🙄

Shedmistress · 30/03/2026 22:48

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 21:40

They fall under the umbrella of lgbtqia, which is a minority group.

I cannot even. Honestly. It's like 2018 in here today.

SionnachRuadh · 30/03/2026 22:44

Look, I'm sorry, but anyone who asserts that AGPs and similar fetishists are extremely rare in trans spaces is either wilfully deluding themselves, or shamelessly bullshitting.

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 22:35

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/03/2026 22:29

I think the groups that were historically aligned are not quite the groups that we see today, and I think those divisions will become increasingly clear.

Yes there’s definitely some fracturing but historically there’s always been the issue that the men’s voices get heard more than the women’s in this community anyway. So it’s always been a tension.

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