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bumptybum · 28/03/2026 16:48

dementedpixie · 28/03/2026 16:42

He has a dsd that only affects men
He isn't between sexes; he is male,complete with his internal testicles

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And yet people was far more letters after their name, than you disagree with you

murasaki · 28/03/2026 16:48

CassOle · 28/03/2026 16:42

Erik Schinegger is white. He is also a male with a DSD that only males can have. He also completed in the female class (skiing in this case) until it was found that he was not female.

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Amd he handed his medal back to the woman who should have won. As he is an honourable person. Unlike Semenya, who is a duplicitous arsehole.

biwr · 28/03/2026 16:47

Semenya has natural testosterone in the male range so has no place competing against females in any sport.

bumptybum · 28/03/2026 16:47

loislovesstewie · 28/03/2026 16:39

He's a man with a DSD. He has internal testes. A person who has testes is a man. He knows that.

Based on legal, sporting, and medical assessments, an individual like Caster Semenya with 46,XY chromosomes, DSD (specifically 5-ARD), internal testes, and high testosterone (male range) is generally considered to have a biological makeup that is neither exclusively female nor male, but rather intersex, despite having female external features

you can opine all you want but the factors they are intersex. This is a biological Position. They are neither male nor female

They are completely separate category from transgender. And whilst I do not believe into intersex individuals should be competing with women, I also am well aware that calling them a man and he is just as incorrect as calling them a woman or she

CassOle · 28/03/2026 16:44

Whether you are male or female has nothing to do with the pigmentation of your skin.

SternJoyousBeev2 · 28/03/2026 16:43

bumptybum · 28/03/2026 16:38

CS is intersex so insisting on ‘he’ is not the gotcha you think it is.

we need proper, intelligent strong arguments. Not emotive jabs.

the argument stands up for itself without cheap shots that have no logical basis

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He is not ‘intersex’, he has a specific DSD that only affects males.

CassOle · 28/03/2026 16:42

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Erik Schinegger is white. He is also a male with a DSD that only males can have. He also completed in the female class (skiing in this case) until it was found that he was not female.

dementedpixie · 28/03/2026 16:42

bumptybum · 28/03/2026 16:38

CS is intersex so insisting on ‘he’ is not the gotcha you think it is.

we need proper, intelligent strong arguments. Not emotive jabs.

the argument stands up for itself without cheap shots that have no logical basis

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He has a dsd that only affects men
He isn't between sexes; he is male,complete with his internal testicles

SternJoyousBeev2 · 28/03/2026 16:42

Caster Semenya is male. He is a man. He knows he is a man. We don’t know exactly when he found out but I suspect it was well before he won 800m gold medal in 2016. He is now grifting by pretending he is advocating for women. When asked, 82% of women athletes (who responded) said they wanted to retain the sex tests.

DamsonGoldfinch · 28/03/2026 16:42

White people? What about all the black women who have missed out on the opportunities and wealth he has accumulated through being a massive cheating bloke?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 28/03/2026 16:40

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CassOle · 28/03/2026 16:40

bumptybum · 28/03/2026 16:38

CS is intersex so insisting on ‘he’ is not the gotcha you think it is.

we need proper, intelligent strong arguments. Not emotive jabs.

the argument stands up for itself without cheap shots that have no logical basis

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Semenya is male with a DSD that only males can have (5ARD) this all came out in the court case.

ProudAmberTurtle · 28/03/2026 16:40

bumptybum · 28/03/2026 16:33

But for the sake if this conversation it’s completely irrelevant and disingenuous to use ‘semenya is a father’ to make any kind of biological point. It weakens your position rather than supports it.

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It's far more disingenuous to pretend that Semenya is a woman

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spannasaurus · 28/03/2026 16:39

bumptybum · 28/03/2026 16:38

CS is intersex so insisting on ‘he’ is not the gotcha you think it is.

we need proper, intelligent strong arguments. Not emotive jabs.

the argument stands up for itself without cheap shots that have no logical basis

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The DSD he has, 5ARD, is a male DSD

loislovesstewie · 28/03/2026 16:39

He's a man with a DSD. He has internal testes. A person who has testes is a man. He knows that.

caringcarer · 28/03/2026 16:38

I'm just glad he is no longer able to compete against women. He should have his medals, he won running against women, taken away from him and they should be given to the rightful female finishers.

bumptybum · 28/03/2026 16:38

dementedpixie · 28/03/2026 16:29

He

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CS is intersex so insisting on ‘he’ is not the gotcha you think it is.

we need proper, intelligent strong arguments. Not emotive jabs.

the argument stands up for itself without cheap shots that have no logical basis

Cerialkiller · 28/03/2026 16:34

ScaryFaces · 28/03/2026 16:20

Whatever you think of Castor Semenya, it is a myth and a conspiracy theory to claim she is the biological father of her children - this is highly unlikely to be medically possible, apart from anything else. If you can't make your case against her without lying, perhaps your case isn't as strong as you thought.

Castor has stated in an interview something to the effect of 'my testicles don't make me any less of a woman'. He knows he isn't a woman. It's sad that he was misdiagnosed as a baby but that isn't the fault of the hundreds of woman that he displaced in the many competitions he ran in.

bumptybum · 28/03/2026 16:33

ProudAmberTurtle · 28/03/2026 16:24

He is the male parent of two children. He is their father.

Yes he didn't produce the sperm that got his wife pregnant but the mother and father of adopted children are still their mother and father

But for the sake if this conversation it’s completely irrelevant and disingenuous to use ‘semenya is a father’ to make any kind of biological point. It weakens your position rather than supports it.

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RumNotRun · 28/03/2026 16:32

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Sorry, but you assume I am white?

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GlovedhandsCecilia · 28/03/2026 16:32

RumNotRun · 28/03/2026 16:31

Ok,I apologise if he didn't father the children, that's what I have read but if it's incorrect then I take it back. I stand by the rest of my statement and the feeling behind it.

You need to read better stuff.

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RumNotRun · 28/03/2026 16:31

Ok,I apologise if he didn't father the children, that's what I have read but if it's incorrect then I take it back. I stand by the rest of my statement and the feeling behind it.

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theilltemperedamateur · 28/03/2026 16:30

ScaryFaces · 28/03/2026 16:20

Whatever you think of Castor Semenya, it is a myth and a conspiracy theory to claim she is the biological father of her children - this is highly unlikely to be medically possible, apart from anything else. If you can't make your case against her without lying, perhaps your case isn't as strong as you thought.

Whilst individuals with 5-ARD don't produce sperm, their internal testes do contain precursor cells which can be harvested surgically: dna from these cells is then injected into the cytoplasm of an ovum in a form of ivf. CS's children could have been conceived like this or using donor sperm. It doesn't matter because it's not relevant to sport (quite interesting though).

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