You can have as many of your own opinions as you like but you don’t get to have your own facts.

If it was so irrefutable why is there so much debate and disagreement

His full medical records you mean.

I don't need to have his full medical records. Listening to him talk about his testicles did it for me.

Sorry? Are you saying that people can decide for themselves whether they are biologically male or female, as in change sex? Or are you talking about the social morass that is gender woo? Because this thread is focussing very heavily on the immutable science that is genetic sex.

Ah, I see you edited in the sentence about Semanya. I don’t think anyone on this thread is denying the existence of people with DSD.

You know that’s not comparable

she has chosen to stay with the sex she has been identified with at birth becuase her biology is not binary

😂😂😂😂 know you are wrong

No one is forcing him into being a him. He just is.

I'm not standing over him with a gun to his head. I'm in a forum thousands of miles away stating facts.

And no one is forcing you to change your language. I just know you are wrong and am at liberty to say so, just like you are perfectly entitled to do the same.

And what are those variations. Are you conflating sex with secondary sex characteristics ?

Nope it really doesn't:

5-alpha reductase deficiency is a rare condition that exclusively affects genetically male individuals (46,XY).

The persons development starts when an egg meets and sperm and I think that sex is pretty well established then. And it’s the same sex that an archaeologist will determine thousands of years after death

remarkable stable

No I am just bored - you don’t offer up any real challenge

you make no factual points you just say oooh it’s complicated

its not complicated at all

I mean the development of the person

and yes not all is perfect in evolution and people like CS have always existed

Which specific one(s) are you referring to?

theparadoxinstitute.org/articles/sex-development-charts

Identifies as a woman? Don't make me laugh. Just look at the manspreading here - have you ever seen a woman sit like that, particularly in public? He is a man, he knows he is a man, he has the body of a man and he behaves like a man. His socialisation is completely male - there is no way he identifies as a woman.

He? I thought you were insisting that CS was a she?

Nope. I said you should stop making up things and weakening your argument with silly lies and rumours.

It gets more complicated with dsds

yes people do the singing when they can’t carrying on listening to opinions that differ from theirs

𝕳𝖔𝖜 𝖆𝖇𝖔𝖚𝖙 𝖎𝖋 𝕴 𝖘𝖆𝖞 𝖎𝖙 𝖎𝖓 𝖆 𝖋𝖆𝖓𝖈𝖞 𝖋𝖔𝖓𝖙?

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Or

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Over time? You mean over billions of years as like every other life form on this planet we evolved into a binary species? Or the last decade or so when we were temporarily blindsided by people with an agenda , loud voices and a limited understanding of biology?

Yes

@Uglydumpling The main charity in the UK for people with DSDs actually had a meeting with Stonewall because Stonewall was spreading so much misinformation about DSDs. (You may recall the lie trans activists spread about how intersex traits are as common as having red hair. Actually only 0.018% of people have a DSD).

People with DSDs formally asked to not be linked to Stonewall.

Stonewall had to humiliatingly update their website to say they no longer represent people with DSDs (whom they insulting refer to as 'intersex').

Lots of transwomen like Jessica Yaniv claim to be intersex because they don't understand what it actually means and they have a fetish. But most people with DSDs reject the term 'intersex'.

Intersex is unscientific activist language which is used to deliberately obfuscate and try and distort reality.

Ah - being male is so
mucj more than XY

what exactly ?

perhaps I am male just with XX chromosomes