Why is sex the only protected characteristic that people want to, or are ‘allowed’ to, self identify into? by

Are you saying that you feel disdain for the different classes of male prisoner that I listed? You certainly might for a pædophile, but he still needs protection. He still has human rights.

We have to practise what we preach: we need to protect the most vulnerable in society. Even the ones we feel disdain for

They did. Nobody entered.

You really need to get more up with what has actually happened outside your queer bubble.

Male prisoners can be old, young, weak, ill, disabled, gay, trans, police, gang members, mentally ill, or known pædophiles. In 1813 there were probably still a few eunuchs (operatic castrati or slaves). They all need protection. And they're all men. Why are they the women's problem?

You say this but funnily enough hasn’t happened in sports.
it would be interesting to pilot no?

You’d get everyone wanting a third space.

Because men’s prisons aren’t that nice as you’ve pointed out.

Of course the surgery existed! How hard is it to chop off a penis?! It may not have been hygienic or done with pain relief but I bet they were still doing it.

What about men who lose their genitalia through accidents or disease? Do they become women?

Do you think men who have no male genitals are incapable of sexual assault?

It’s not. The surgery didn’t exist. Trans people did but the surgery didn’t so this is a new problem

Well I think that would soon stop if they were told sorry this isn’t an option but we have this third space.

But if they no longer have a penis, in the UK they can’t legally rape women. What’s your view on this?

No third spaces are not an option. If you have prison free for all for feelings then everyone will identify into it.

You’re clearly new to this topic because the vast majority of sex offenders change their ‘trans’ identity after conviction to attempt to get into women’s prisons.

So you agree with me? You think third spaces might be a viable option?

He’s still a man so he goes to the men’s prison.

And I thought that trans people had always been with us, so it is extremely disrespectful to say there were none in 1813.

A man with an orifice would be housed in the men’s estate. Being a man is how we segregate.

Men also have anuses and mouths that can be raped. A surgical hole is most likely less satisfying than the alternatives.

So if you have a biological man who removed his penis and had a medically constructed vagina where would you put him?
because they didn’t exist in 1813 but they exist now.

I’m not defending rapists. I’m just saying I’m not going to put this person in a position where they can be raped. Solitary confinement is an option. Trans prisons are options. There’s not just women’s prisons.
i cannot condone the rape or sexual abuse of anyone no matter who they are or what they’ve done because that would make me as bad as them in my book. I want to make it clear I’m not defending rapists. He has no right to rape anyone but he also has the right to be not raped too. I can’t do him for something but then say it’s ok when I sanction it for you. Do you see what I’m saying? I’m not defending rapists. But I will defend anyone’s right not be raped, even if they have sexually abused someone else.
and my reasoning for this is it’s a slippery slope if we do. It has to be a blanket no on sexual abuse to protect women and girls.

Who decides on where the boundaries are of ‘looking like a woman’? Should women who don’t have massive boobs and blonde flicky hair get put in male prisons because they don’t look womanly enough ?

Did you know that men get sexually abused by other men in prison even if they don’t have a pretend vagina?

And what about the well known phenomenon of men suddenly realising they are in fact a woman when it comes to being sentenced?

There is no nuance to this. Men go to men’s prisons and that’s it.

So if you have a biological man who removed his penis and had a medically constructed vagina where would you put him?
because they didn’t exist in 1813 but they exist now.

I’m confused are you talking about female to male or male to female? Because you’re not using pronouns in a way that makes this easy to follow.
if you have a penis and you’ve committed a crime then no you should not be allowed around vulnerable women. But if you look like a woman and you’re likely to be sexually abused by other men you can’t just be left in gen pop in a male prison? Like I said this is very nuanced?

No I don’t think this but I think people who refuse to use people’s chosen pronouns but have no problem respecting a chosen name are a bit transphobic, yes

You see it’s not nuanced.

A women who identifies as a man and wants to be treated as a man shouldn’t get to choose their rights. It’s not a Pik B’ Mix.

Men in men’s prisons. Safeguarded appropriately of course. And women in women’s prison. Dysphoria discounted.

I’m confused are you talking about female to male or male to female? Because you’re not using pronouns in a way that makes this easy to follow.
if you have a penis and you’ve committed a crime then no you should not be allowed around vulnerable women. But if you look like a woman and you’re likely to be sexually abused by other men you can’t just be left in gen pop in a male prison? Like I said this is very nuanced?

I’m confused are you talking about female to male or male to female? Because you’re not using pronouns in a way that makes this easy to follow.
if you have a penis and you’ve committed a crime then no you should not be allowed around vulnerable women. But if you look like a woman and you’re likely to be sexually abused by other men you can’t just be left in gen pop in a male prison? Like I said this is very nuanced?