Why is sex the only protected characteristic that people want to, or are ‘allowed’ to, self identify into? by

Sex is the only protected characteristice that is immutable.

Age changes
Disability can change
Sexuality can change
Marital status can change
Pregnancy changes
Religion can change
Gender reassignment has never been explained
Race identity can vary
but
Sex is determined at conception and never changes

You are incorrectly sexing lady boys and forcing your gender ideology onto them
by calling them trans women. That’s literal death to the trans lobby.

I dont think there was a dr in the room when I gave birth.

Either way you said "to me if you have breasts and a vagina you look like a woman" and you don't actually know by looking if someone has a vagina.

Haha I lost that dignity both times I gave birth

Self-ID is important because it affects perception of the individual by others.

So, a man who looks like a woman is entitled not to be discriminated against as to sex, both by people who know he's a man, and people who think he's a woman.

But he still can't go to a women's prison, because the Prisons Act requires them to be single-sex.

And he still can't use a Schedule 3 women's service, because the exemption from liability for sex-discrimination, provided by Schedule 3, only applies to single-sex services, and his presence stops the service from being single-sex.

Schedule 3 provides an exemption for perceptive sex-discrimination too. For instance you can exclude a transman for good reason (para 28 - eg her appearance will frighten other users).

Not sure a dr has seen it TBH.

But that's my original point - people self identify as different races all the time. Would your grandparents really be horrified if you or your siblings started to identify more strongly with their black or Indian heritage through the way they dress, talk, eat, the culture they consume etc? Because that would be unusual and most grandparents in that situation would be proud. You could also argue that with Black and Indian heritage by solely identifying with a white European identify your younger family members are self identifying their race. Black face is also less about self identification and more about mocking people with darker skin colours. Race is fluid, and our understanding of it is largely a social construct rather than a biological fact.

Transwomen do not have female parts. That's not something a surgeon can provide them with.

I’ve started a thread please come and talk there, I don’t want to derail this thread

lol I’d never look but if you told me and a dr gave me a letter saying you had one and he’d seen it I’d take his word for it

How TF would you know if I have a vagina? You know, seeing as its inside my body. Gross.

Our laws differentiate between penetration with a penis and penetration with other objects as well as non penetrative offences. It doesn’t make one act more serious or traumatic than the other.

Mate, men with boob jobs look like men with boob jobs.

Yeah no they don't.

Yes that answered your question, to me if you have breasts and a vagina you look like a woman.
this isn’t hard

I asked 'Which male prisoners 'look like a woman'?'
You said 'The ones who’ve had surgery and call themselves women but you refuse to call women.

You can just check your own posts if you are confused about that as well

I think this is the key point:

'Sex is different because it intersects with things that are sex-segregated:

• Sport
• Prisons
• Refuges
• Toilets
• Changing rooms
• Data collection
• Healthcare
• Single-sex charities and services

No other protected characteristic affects physical categories and single-sex spaces in the same way.'

There was a similar issue where there was/is racial segregation, as segregation was intended to deny one group the advantages of the other. But when a black person endeavoured to pass as white, they didn't argue that it was their right to 'feel' white and that everyone else should believe it, regardless of whether they 'looked' white or not. If they did, I doubt they would have got the same support and acceptance that Transwomen do now. So why is one acceptable, and one not?

Lots of women who were born women look like men. What’s your point??

I never said this. I said I’m ok with self identification labels and will use whatever pronoun I’m asked to

I made the post about the legal definition of rape if you’re interested. Come and argue about this there!!

I don't I view all men as men.

I asked you because YOU seem to value men as women if they look like women.

I can’t find any ‘sexy’ trans women prisoners
In other words, you can’t find any trans women prisoners who don't continue to look unmistakably male.

Engage with me or not, I don't care. I'm just disputing your claim that full genital surgery can either make a man into a woman, or make him look like a woman. And in the case of the fragrant Alan Barker, castration certainly hasn't made him behave like a woman.

oh good lord. So you measure trans women by how they fit arguably peadophillic sexist beauty standards? Rather than if they’ve had surgery to have female parts? These are the ones I’m talking about.
I can’t find any ‘sexy’ trans women prisoners and I’m not googling it because it will take me to porn.

Nope I did not.

I asked 'Which male prisoners 'look like a woman'?'

You said 'The ones who’ve had surgery and call themselves women but you refuse to call women.'

So I asked if you had any photos of these men, the prisoners who looked like women, which is who you say should be put into female jails.

And apparently your answer is 'instagram ladyboys'. So no you don't have any examples of male prisoners who 'look like women'.