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Company wide Teams call, one of the presenters had a very sexual picture, think Jessica rabbit style, inappropriate for work; starts speaking, all becomes clear...

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AstonsGerbil · 26/03/2026 22:33

So, will have to change some details so that it's not completely outing.

Someone I know closely was in a Teams call recently, a big company wide one, works for a big UK company, private company, very well known.

Slides to be presented in the call include pictures of the presenters and one of the pictures is extremely sexual: of pretty much a bombshell of a woman, Jessica Rabbit type, completely inappropriate in a working environment and especially inappropriate as the picture chosen for a business presentation.

Person I know thinks, hmm that's not right, why has no one pulled her up about this? Highly inappropriate to use this picture.

Then...this presenter comes on the screen to talk, it all becomes clear, extremely deep male voice and despite the Teams filters on their IRL video, it's obviously a male person. Their name as well is fairly obviously like a porn star name. Think like a 'Chantelle' or 'Chastity' type name.

But we get told on this board over and over again it's not a sexual fetish, no no, it's not, uh uh, they are just 'being true to themselves'.

Just to be clear, if an actual woman did this she'd be told to change the avatar and tone it down. 100%. Ugh. Indulging this at the highest level of this company is so gross.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll get all the usual suspects coming out to tell me I'm being a big old meanie blah blah blah but tbh, I'm just glad I don't work there. Total ick.

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AstonsGerbil · 04/04/2026 16:24

lcakethereforeIam · 03/04/2026 22:57

For no particular reason 😇, does anyone remember that episode of BuffytVS called 'Hush'. Can't think why that came to mind.

The gentlemen? Who floated and didn't speak? That was a great episode of Buffy, very creepy.

Apologies, derailing my own thread! 😅

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moto748e · 03/04/2026 23:07

They're 'aving a laff. It's not bloody funny.

lcakethereforeIam · 03/04/2026 22:57

For no particular reason 😇, does anyone remember that episode of BuffytVS called 'Hush'. Can't think why that came to mind.

SwirlyGates · 03/04/2026 17:59

Turtlesgottaturtle · 03/04/2026 15:59

I think managers can still expect people to where appropriate clothes for the environment. In a professional office environment with no dress code, I'd expect people to wear smart casual and up. In a more standard office, then more casual would be okay, but not shorts and flip flops, and certainly not fishnet stockings.

Oh you should have seen some of the others... shorts, flip flops, all made their appearance!

Bertiebiscuit · 03/04/2026 17:05

Turtlesgottaturtle · 27/03/2026 23:11

I remember the psychiatrist and psychotherapist Az Hakeem -. who worked with gender questioning men for a decade - says that a lot of transwomen dress like their mums because their issue comes from mother-related hang-ups. They literally want to look like their mothers.

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮Ick

SionnachRuadh · 03/04/2026 17:05

I want to say, I'm not a huge fan of Kristi Noem as a politician, but in the circumstances I'm prepared to overlook her having loads of affairs, I assume with men whose tastes are a bit less weird.

UtopiaPlanitia · 03/04/2026 16:35

A recent article that’s very relevant to this thread’s discussion:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/04/02/kristi-noems-husband-and-the-dark-secret-of-trans/

When the trans lobby first emerged in the 1960s, its leading activists, like Virginia (aka Arnold) Prince, insisted cross-dressers should dress conservatively. All the better to appear respectable. This also appealed to men who fantasised about being treated as submissive domestic servants. This is what they assumed ‘real’ women are like – or should be like. By 2014, the year Time magazine dubbed ‘The Transgender Tipping Point’, trans activists like Laverne Cox and Munroe Bergdorf had adopted a highly sexualised parody of women inspired by pornography. Whether it’s the older ‘sissy’ fantasy or the newer pornified fantasy, one thing remains the same: cross-dressers can’t help themselves from belittling women. How could they? Belittling women is the core mission of almost all male cross-dressing.

Kristi Noem’s husband and the dark secret of trans

Men who wear women’s clothes were not ‘born in the wrong body’ – they do it for a sexual thrill.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/04/02/kristi-noems-husband-and-the-dark-secret-of-trans/

Turtlesgottaturtle · 03/04/2026 15:59

SwirlyGates · 03/04/2026 14:33

There used to be a woman at my office who dressed a bit like this - fishnets, short skirt, gothy basques pushing up much cleavage. There was no dress code, and people wore all sorts (mostly just unattractive sandals or tatty t-shirts), but I did find it really inappropriate. I suppose "no dress code" means you can't challenge this; or maybe it was just me who thought it was off.

I think managers can still expect people to where appropriate clothes for the environment. In a professional office environment with no dress code, I'd expect people to wear smart casual and up. In a more standard office, then more casual would be okay, but not shorts and flip flops, and certainly not fishnet stockings.

SwirlyGates · 03/04/2026 14:33

Bertiebiscuit · 03/04/2026 13:41

I left a part time job a few years ago in part because a plainly male colleague started turning up to meetings in teeny tiny daisy Duke style shorts, tights, boots, a long nylon wig and huge false nails. No one else seemed to have a problem. But they certainly would have if a woman turned up like this, looking like a streetwalker. The double standard is alive and well, and that's how we know there are no "trans women", only men with a kink or 2.

There used to be a woman at my office who dressed a bit like this - fishnets, short skirt, gothy basques pushing up much cleavage. There was no dress code, and people wore all sorts (mostly just unattractive sandals or tatty t-shirts), but I did find it really inappropriate. I suppose "no dress code" means you can't challenge this; or maybe it was just me who thought it was off.

Womanofcustard · 03/04/2026 14:01

Why will the senior blokes never speak out to these numpties about dress code and appropriate attire?

Because they like it?

MoltenLasagne · 03/04/2026 13:47

I also had a colleague suddenly turn up at work as a "woman" in leather skirt and fishnets about 10 years ago. He'd already been the office creep that the new girls had to be warned about.

Luckily for us, we had a tough Yorkshire lady as the boss's PA and she put him properly in his place about toilets and appropriate office wear.

Bertiebiscuit · 03/04/2026 13:41

Shedmistress · 26/03/2026 22:36

My male colleague in his 50s turned up at work dressed as little bo peep about 12 years ago. Grim, very grim.

So no I won't tell you that you are a big old meanie.

I left a part time job a few years ago in part because a plainly male colleague started turning up to meetings in teeny tiny daisy Duke style shorts, tights, boots, a long nylon wig and huge false nails. No one else seemed to have a problem. But they certainly would have if a woman turned up like this, looking like a streetwalker. The double standard is alive and well, and that's how we know there are no "trans women", only men with a kink or 2.

Pleasantsort2 · 03/04/2026 12:48

StellaAndCrow · 27/03/2026 11:11

Not sure if it's the same workplace, but I remember a woman getting pulled into HR for a "be kind" warning.

Because a trans-identified man reported her for leaving the women's toilets when he came in. He tried to engage her in a chat about lipstick and she left, so he was SAD. And reported her.

Bloody hell. I can believe that. My DH has complained to the union and they like that. He has put it as a potential safeguarding issue but to be fair , these blokes haven't used the Ladies to his knowledge since the SC ruling and my DH has no female colleagues willing to back him up, so he doesn't want to be "That Man". He knows that they are not comfortable but they are afraid to have their names on paper saying so.Including his female Line Manager. Meanwhile, these clowns get to swan about the office getting off on one...

Pleasantsort2 · 02/04/2026 11:25

Flyingeyeball · 28/03/2026 07:12

Surely they have a uniform code?! My ex worked in two different branches of the civil service, one was more casual dress code and one was more traditional smart wear but they both had work wear guidelines. 🤦 It's grim that this person is forcing his fetish on his colleagues unchallenged.

All the women ( and men ) follow it, but not these "women" because they are special. DH has privately raised it with his line manager and she agrees but doesn't want to go there and who can blame her? They are very run of the mill basic grade civil servant here. Think Job Centre but not that.

SionnachRuadh · 29/03/2026 12:57

The double standard is a real thing. I remember years ago, when I was line managing a bright young woman, I had to take her aside and quietly advise her to put a jumper on because her boobs were distracting. I still feel a bit bad about that because it's not even as if she was dressed unprofessionally, she just couldn't help her shape.

This standard about professional dress never applies to a 50yo bloke who decides that, as of Monday, he's coming to work in a leather mini and fishnets to express his "authentic self".

WashTheWindows · 29/03/2026 11:26

DramaAndBullshit · 28/03/2026 16:28

I think all corporate headshots should be like this. Serious faces and a vegetable. Preferably one you grew yourself.

I second this!

Shedmistress · 28/03/2026 17:55

DramaAndBullshit · 28/03/2026 16:28

I think all corporate headshots should be like this. Serious faces and a vegetable. Preferably one you grew yourself.

Exactly!

DramaAndBullshit · 28/03/2026 16:28

Shedmistress · 27/03/2026 17:53

I did a corporate job for the last 5 years before retiring and we were told to put pictures up. It just so happened that week I was harvesting Yard Long Beans in the summer of 2020 so I took a photo with a yard long bean as a moustache Cartel Style and put that up.

I didn't realise that the pic appeared on external emails.

Problem was that even taking it down, it still appeared randomly on emails.

Weirdly they never asked me again. Apparently it tickled the accounts team in Head Office quite a lot.

I think all corporate headshots should be like this. Serious faces and a vegetable. Preferably one you grew yourself.

Lobsterteapot · 28/03/2026 10:23

@PrettyDamnCosmic Fuck me that is grim 🤮

PrettyDamnCosmic · 28/03/2026 10:12

Lobsterteapot · 28/03/2026 09:59

That’s really interesting. I often thought it was a “how they saw women” sexual kink. So either whore (PVC) or Madonna (twin set and pearls)

Some men will marry someone who is like their mother. There is also a thing where some transvestite men will do dress & makeup like thier wives e.g. Dr Upton.

Lobsterteapot · 28/03/2026 09:59

Turtlesgottaturtle · 27/03/2026 23:11

I remember the psychiatrist and psychotherapist Az Hakeem -. who worked with gender questioning men for a decade - says that a lot of transwomen dress like their mums because their issue comes from mother-related hang-ups. They literally want to look like their mothers.

That’s really interesting. I often thought it was a “how they saw women” sexual kink. So either whore (PVC) or Madonna (twin set and pearls)

Flyingeyeball · 28/03/2026 07:12

Pleasantsort2 · 26/03/2026 22:49

YANBU My DH has a colleague (M) who turns up to work being "her true self" in the very dull civil service with a basque top, leather skirt , fish nets and high heels... You know what , most female civil servants turn up in for a day at the office.(Not) Oh and fake tit thingys. Ridiculous.

Surely they have a uniform code?! My ex worked in two different branches of the civil service, one was more casual dress code and one was more traditional smart wear but they both had work wear guidelines. 🤦 It's grim that this person is forcing his fetish on his colleagues unchallenged.

Turtlesgottaturtle · 27/03/2026 23:11

I remember the psychiatrist and psychotherapist Az Hakeem -. who worked with gender questioning men for a decade - says that a lot of transwomen dress like their mums because their issue comes from mother-related hang-ups. They literally want to look like their mothers.

EdithStourton · 27/03/2026 22:36

AstonsGerbil · 26/03/2026 22:40

Ugh that's awful. Did he start using the women's toilets? Hopefully not but if so, how horrible for you and all the other women working there.

Does anyone remember that thread ages ago about that woman whose boss (it was a small business) hired someone like that who caused no end of problems? Jenny was it? It was one of the first threads I read on here and it was so creepy. I think the last update from the op was she was looking for a new job and at least three of her male colleagues had quit too.

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I remember that thread. I quite often wondered what happened in the end.

I hope the OP found a new job and got the hell out of Dodge.

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