Women’s Hour - Transwoman Talking About Misogyny WTAF?

If I could disguise myself as a man for a few days, I think it would be interesting to see how life felt different because of how I was treated as a man compared to when I was living as a woman.

Maybe this WH man wanted to describe how life felt different in how he was treated as a woman compared to when he was obviously a man, but, if he thinks he experienced no misogyny as a woman, then that must be because everyone really knew, one way or another, that he was a man all along.

I don’t blame you. Unforgivable. Did you tell them you actually did it?

Well done, anyway.👏👏👏👏

I wish WH had women guests. It's not too much to ask is it? Although, apparently it is. And he wasn't booked as a man, he was booked as a woman and lauded as such.

Ahh I see. You say you wouldn’t have had a problem if it was a man, and you’d also say that trans woman is a man. Did you have an issue with their credentials as an academic?

WH had a segment on misogyny and chose to get a man identifying as a woman to talk about it. I'd actually have been okay if it was man talking about their own concerns as a man, what they've seen and what maybe they are trying to do about it. But no. And what, WH couldn't find any other expert who's an actual woman to discuss it from an academic point of view?

So yes personally I have lots of other stuff going on in my life and I still complained.

How many English-speaking women are there in the world? Presumably millions…yet they chose to talk to a MAN about MISOGYNY. This is misogyny in action.

I feel really sorry for you. Do you have nothing else going on in your life? You feel that need to complain about a guest who did what? Dared the exist while trans

I was actually speechless at the decision. Of all the women academics they ask a man. He even admitted to not understanding the sahm element, of course he bloody didn’t. Nula doing her usual pandering. I’ve complained countless times to WH but I really don’t think they care?

Bloody hell, his voice is annoying isn't it.

I'll send a complaint in too. Who do we escalate it to when the BBC team inevitably dismiss the complaint? Is it an OFCOM thing?

No. What they recite is “There is no such sex as male or female”.

Does the entire BBC staff (and, the Whitehall staff) assemble daily and, hand on heart, repeat the words "We all believe and solemnly swear that there is NO difference between males and females"??

That would help explain it.

This morning's WH had an item on women in sport. They got an elite woman rugby player, as a 'spokeswoman' to represent all women and girls in the general public. (!)

She explained that, in childhood, her parents would buy her footballs, so she could 'bribe' the boys to let her play. She therefore concluded that all girls must be made to "run around and play sport together with boys" . The WH crew could see no problem with that. There is no difference, they devoutly believe, between males and females. Females of all ages must be obliged to play mixed sports. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

There was some faint concession to the notion some girls didn't like that, but it was ascribed to their presumed unreasonable problems with body image, which could be corrected by permitting them to wear whatever sports-wear they chose. Permitting them not to be forced to "run around and play" with aggressive males twice their strength was an option too absurd to be considered.

Does the entire BBC staff (and, the Whitehall staff) assemble daily and, hand on heart, repeat the words "We all believe and solemnly swear that there is NO difference between males and females"??

In the same episode, Womb's Hour had an item on an online physio game, for stroke patients.
There are many differences between males and females, (shhh...., but even the High Court says so, ) And, one such difference is the tendency of females to be cooperative and of males to be competetive.

Therefore, the physio game is based on appealing to patients' desire to be competetive.(!)

The logic accepted without question, by all, is that whatever appeals to males must be the only thing that matters. To hell with those stupid sub-humans, the females. They should stop having strokes, because that's for men. If they insist on having strokes, like men, then they must be required to turn into men, and be obsessed with, therefore motivated by, competition, sport and gaming.

Womb's Hour had a representative of something called 50/50, supposedly to do with equality.
They had a woman talking about her husband's amazing progress, post-stroke, because the game appeals to his invariablly easily triggered impulse to compete.

They had a female presenter. Not one among the lot of them could comprehend that women are not men.

I've complained this morning so won't get a response back yet, but I've asked for one. Tried not to go on a soap box but the basic jist was

• He's a man

• How offensive it was for women who DO experience misogyny and male violence to have to tune in and listen to a man talk about how hard it is for him

• How biased Nuala clearly is and the aggressive line of questioning she uses for GC voices, tells listeners their views are offensive. Doesn't do the same for TRA voices.

• That this is a conscious choice by the BBC and it feels like it is being done on purpose.

• That it's been nearly a year since the SC judgement, the BBC need to do better at this and they should apologise.

Oh for crying out loud! I am so done with this. I'd shut the BBC down if I had my way. And don't get me started on the Guardian! 😡

Transwoman academic from an Australian university who’s studied masculinity for 30 years.

Yeah, Ray Connell had some good stuff to say about masculinity in Australia - not an easy task in the 70s and 80s. But then went weird and transitioned.

You would think he'd know better.

Has anyone written to complain to the BBC? Have you had a response?

To be fair, he made a real hash of that interview with Nuala. She's left with egg on her face

I found her hard enough to listen to before with her em erring and very obvious lack of any background work before interviews. She put that egg there herself, in the hope that men will be pleased with her.

The most misogynistic thing I have heard is that being a woman is not defined by living in the world with a female body. It is defined as what a man feels.

You know I was thinking about this. And Men he pretend they're women don't like it when you say they're not a real woman. But can't see that that is part of being a woman being told they aren't something. You can't be something. Your thoughts? Your thoughts and your ideas are dismissed. That's all part of being a woman unfortunately and they don't like it and call it transphobia. Welcome to being a woman!

The BBC is behaving like an abusive partner. When you step out of line they escalate their behaviour to put you back in your place. The BBC has had a telling off recently due to its approach to sex and gender, this is an attempt to regain control. What better way than to get a man who says he is a woman on Woman's hour to talk about everyday sexism.

Why any woman pays her TV licence is beyond me (I know you don't need it for radio).

Wasn’t it to give a live demonstration of the Manosphere?

I doubt the producers actually thought it through. But it was a good demonstration nonetheless.

Unless it was done deliberately, to blatantly spit in women’s faces, why did they even give him the time of day??

Yes. Indeed WH did provide him a platform.

To be fair, he made a real hash of that interview with Nuala. She's left with egg on her face - he didn't make one word of sense and ended up being interrupted for not answering the question at the end, dribbling on about being marginalised. Embarrassed for WH.

JFC! I just listened to it and wishing I hadn't. He puts on a ridiculous simpering voice. The fact that he thinks women talk like that says loads more about misogyny than the word salad that came out of his mouth.