Women's Rights Network Imploding - thread 2

A woman was kicked out of the Women’s Rights Network for LIKING A TWEET?? Does Rosie Duffield know?

I think one was expelled for liking a comment. 😬

Oh and the members who replied on X were threw out within the hour.

When replies on their official X account were highlighting the problem, they closed the account down instead of addressing the problem.
2 requests for a meeting have been ignored.

I was downplaying it a tad tbf. It’s worth mentioning that the fuck off and fuck you coordinator is still in the coordinators chat and heavily involved in the legal chat despite no longer officially being a coordinator.

How very interesting 🤔

The coordinators of NI WRN pushed and bullied out a long standing co ord.
Their way of running things is to keep everything a secret until they needed numbers for protests then the rest of the group were allowed to know.
After the removal of the member there were announcements put up on the WhatsApp chat boards, they were tone deaf to say the least.
When some members replied, politely nut asking questions, a coord told them to "fuck off " and "fuck you". But it's ok because she apologised to Heather, not the members she swore at, and basically it was their own fault 🙄

Not really an implosion. A founding member/coodinator/director left because she was being bullied and undermined by a fairly new coordinator. Other women left in solidarity and others were expelled for going public when their concerns were dismissed and ignored.

Well, well, well so it’s happened yet again and now it’s Northern Ireland

Good question, very good question. Let’s see what happens.

Does anyone know how you get in touch with Women o’ Scotland if you’re not on X/twitter?

Thanks

Sounds like yet another entire group has been thrown out. No mention of this within WRN, the usual ‘nothing to see’ approach.

What happened in Northern Ireland?

Same issue in NI? “Women of Northern Ireland” about the be set up? x.com/wearetesty/status/2075163761422356606?s=46

That’s OK. I can see why you thought I might be being mean. I’m not. I just think that Mary Howden throwing 62 contributing members (time &
financial resources) was a poorly thought out strategic decision.

I'm sorry, I meant no offence. It's hard to read tone in written word rather than in real life.

It wasn't nice what wrn Scotland did to those of us who were removed, but as they say, one door can close and another can open.

It was a neutral question. No need to make unjustified assumptions about other people’s motives or experiences.

I'm assuming you'd be happy if they were? I wouldn't; even though I was one of the women kicked out last June, I wouldn't be happy to see them fold as they do good still and raise the profile of women's rights in Scotland.

I believe you perhaps know more about the leadership issues than I ever did, am I right? I suspect so from reading your responses on these threads, so perhaps you've more reason than me to hold a grudge, but like I said, I was upset at the time, but I think it's good that other groups have started up instead, hopefully they can co-exist without issues. I'm going to try and see if I can find a local one to me and dip my toe back in again.

Is WRN Scotland bankrupt yet?

Totally agree @TinselAngel

It’s not all that surprising Lily. There are posters here who claim not to be any part of WRN but still manage to set out the party line in almost exactly the same words as some of the core team of WRN. Criticising and undermining other groups and claiming there is nothing to see within WRN despite massive rifts and swathes of women being expelled, this is a common pattern.

I am always bemused by the number of posters on this and the previous thread who claim to know so much about the Women Of groups (when it is patently clear they don’t have a clue) while simultaneously claiming that the WRN does not have significant leadership, governance, and member retention issues, despite the screenshots of correspondence and the many firsthand accounts of former members.

It’s a curious but recurring phenomenon.

Others have replied but I can confirm that the Women Of groups certainly do all of those things.

The Women of Wessex produce and distribute their own leaflets, organise and attend protests, engage with as many members of the public as possible, lobby MPs and councillors, challenge schools and academies, submit FOIs, conduct research, and have written briefing papers for MPs and ministers. In addition, members have sent pre-action letters to public bodies and a registered charity, and are prepared to go to judicial review if those organisations continue to fail to comply with the law. Some of our members have given interviews to the national press to raise public awareness of the failure of public bodies to act in accordance with the law.

Our X/Twitter account is just a shop window, signposting how to get in touch with us. Our activism is conducted in real life with real people and real organisations. We are most certainly not just keyboard warriors.

Not true. Consciousness raising is an important method of feminist activism.

You gathered that did you @Asdexpansion, despite being so confused by what is being said. “Just a Twitter account” just happens to be the way some WRN women dismiss the work of other groups. Even a cursory search of the Women Of organisations would show the extent of their campaigning activity.