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Hannah Spencer harassed in Manchester

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MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 08:42

Despite the fact that certain very vocal sections of this board are aggressively anti-trans and anti-Green, I'd gently suggest that this kind of confrontation and abuse is unacceptable in any civilised society, regardless of personal ideologies.

Link to article

Perhaps the saddest irony here is that these male bigots claim to be protecting women's rights whilst trying to attack a woman MP. On International Women's Day.

I'd be curious to see how other MNetters feel about this situation...

Green Party say 'Hannah Spencer won't be silenced' after Manchester violence

Hannah Spencer, Gorton and Denton's newly-elected MP, was ushered into a police car amid the unfolding chaos

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/green-party-hannah-spencer-mp-33554288

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spannasaurus · 09/03/2026 13:42

Violetparis · 09/03/2026 13:33

I see aggression on all sides.

In general or this incident specifically?

Greyskybluesky · 09/03/2026 13:41

This is Edge of the Matrix in Brighton, challenging TRAs who are of course all masked up. It's long but it illustrates so many things extremely well.

Shortshriftandlethal · 09/03/2026 13:40

Violetparis · 09/03/2026 13:32

Sick of aggresive men on all political sides.

Most of us are not on any "political side" - if by that you mean Left/Right. We're simply on the side of protecting women and children from trans ideology

Violent right wing thugs have nothing to do with us. It wasn't violent right wing thugs that were invoved here, anyway. It was violent Left wing/progressive thugs, of which there are plenty.

Repeating a question at a public gathering is not violence; although it seems repeating such questions certainly seems to drive quite a few to violence themselves.

midgetastic · 09/03/2026 13:38

The message is that you risk being punched if you challenged mildly their position

Shortshriftandlethal · 09/03/2026 13:35

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 09:07

Have you considered discussing the message, rather than unthinkingly attack the messenger? I think it might help promote a healthier discussion.

The Billboard guy is just asking questions in th typical manner of a pushy journalist. From what i've seen of him, and Billboard Chris who obviously inspires him ( and who is the calmest person you can imagine) he's the one that is often subjected to violence and people grabbing and smashing his equipment.

Women ( and some men) who stand up for women's protections and against childhood transition have always been the ones whose meetings are attcked; who are physically assaulted and threatend with violence - not the other way around.

Violetparis · 09/03/2026 13:33

spannasaurus · 09/03/2026 13:26

It was Hannah Spencers supporters that were violent.

I see aggression on all sides.

Violetparis · 09/03/2026 13:32

Datun · 09/03/2026 13:25

Well, it was her own security that punched a woman.

Sick of aggresive men on all political sides.

BerryTwister · 09/03/2026 13:31

I wonder what the Green Party spokesman would say if those “angry men” decided to self ID as women tomorrow. Presumably, given that they would then be women, Hannah Spencer needn’t have been so afraid.

spannasaurus · 09/03/2026 13:26

Violetparis · 09/03/2026 13:24

I'm GC, the incident looks apalling and frightening for Hannah Spencer. I condone this as much as I condone events when GC women are harrassed by men. No wonder women are put off going into politics.

It was Hannah Spencers supporters that were violent.

Datun · 09/03/2026 13:25

Violetparis · 09/03/2026 13:24

I'm GC, the incident looks apalling and frightening for Hannah Spencer. I condone this as much as I condone events when GC women are harrassed by men. No wonder women are put off going into politics.

Well, it was her own security that punched a woman.

Pudmyboy · 09/03/2026 13:25

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 09:07

Have you considered discussing the message, rather than unthinkingly attack the messenger? I think it might help promote a healthier discussion.

oh the irony!

KitWyn · 09/03/2026 13:24

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 11:05

"No idea tbh but why are they always so aggressive?"

You admit to having no idea about a marginalised group, but still condemn make statements that they want total domination?

I can't imagine any other situation in life where people have no idea about a group of people but are still aggressively opposed to them...

This 'most marginalised' group includes a large number of middle-aged, middle-income, white straight men, often married to biological women with children they biologically fathered.

Yet these adult males, by taking their cross-dressing habit to be 24-hours and out in public, somehow, magically, become part of the 'most marginalised'.

There is no credible evidence that a man with a female gender identity is, on a per capita basis, any less of a risk than other men. What (imperfect) evidence and research available suggests it stays the same.

Violetparis · 09/03/2026 13:24

I'm GC, the incident looks apalling and frightening for Hannah Spencer. I condone this as much as I condone events when GC women are harrassed by men. No wonder women are put off going into politics.

Helleofabore · 09/03/2026 13:23

Shortshriftandlethal · 09/03/2026 13:21

Surely Billboard Chris was not involved with violence? ( Was he even there?) He's the most clam, zen like person around.

Isn't the Matrix guy a Chris impersonator?

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It was 'edgeofmatrix' not Chris Elston. Edge is fairly calm too. People often he is jostled or people try to steal his hat or equipment.

He has adopted Chris' billboard and his style.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 09/03/2026 13:22

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Now I'm not so sure I have the right guy as I cannot find his book on Amazon. However I do know that his name is Steve James & he is assisted by his wife Sue. Steve is a former Royal Navy Commando & firefighter.

Shortshriftandlethal · 09/03/2026 13:21

SmallChildCryingTearsofButter · 09/03/2026 12:07

Oh dear, I think there are some very crossed wires at your end.

You literally said this in your OP:
male bigots claim to be protecting women's rights whilst trying to attack a woman MP.

So then I asked you for the evidence that it was the men with the WR placards attacking her but now you are denying that you even said that? So I’m guessing you know that but wasn’t Billboard Chris and his colleague committing the violence even though that was your implication?

There is also video footage of part of the incident, where the police are having to protect Hannah whilst they escort her to her car. The behaviour of those around her is, frankly, despicable.

Your implication that the violence was committed by Billboard Chris etc was clear because no one could ever accuse the Green/Islamic men of protecting women’s rights 🤣

If you’ve got an issue with the violence from the Green/Islamic men, go tell them about it. I’m not sure why you’ve come here to berate women?

Btw, this board is about discussing women’s rights. If you deem that to be ‘anti trans’ then that highlights the serious incompatibility of women’s rights and trans ideology. Doesn’t it.

Surely Billboard Chris was not involved with violence? ( Was he even there?) He's the most clam, zen like person around.

Isn't the Matrix guy a Chris impersonator?

Brefugee · 09/03/2026 13:18

gosh - i thought Jezabel had been resurrected. Obvs not. ha

lcakethereforeIam · 09/03/2026 13:16

Greyskybluesky · 09/03/2026 11:55

"derailed the thread, which presumably was the intention in the first place"

Setting the facts straight isn't "derailing".

Even the shitty Manchester Evening News says this:
She was questioned by a YouTuber wearing a 'Trans women are men' sandwich board, who repeatedly asked 'Are trans women women?' and 'Can a woman have a penis?'. Two men then began arguing as punches were thrown before a police officer intervened. One of the same men then became involved in a separate altercation with a woman, as several others stepped in.

That write up by the MEN is dreadful. If all I'd read was that I'd be none the wiser as to who had attacked who. The impression is it was the Greens who were the victims not the aggressors. The truth, something the MEN apparently couldn't bring themselves to report (although to be fair they only lied by omission), is completely opposite. No wonder the OP was fooled.

Iirc, there isn't a bedroom in Cluedo.

Brefugee · 09/03/2026 13:07

Maybe the online magazine Jezebel was right when they said MN "has become a toxic breeding ground for transphobia"...

gosh. Well Jezebel is for a bunch of women who never had to fight for anything but are prepared to let penii (penises?) into places our daughters are changing so they can get in the sea/fuck off to the other side of fuck.

But: we are in favour of, support, and advocate for women's rights.
If that is going to be the definition of transphobia at least we can work with it. Because up to now there hasn't been one.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 09/03/2026 13:02

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Greyskybluesky · 09/03/2026 12:59

Helleofabore · 09/03/2026 12:58

Mind you, I thought Jezebel was a thing of the past.

Shhhhh....it is.....

Helleofabore · 09/03/2026 12:58

Mind you, I thought Jezebel was a thing of the past.

BiologicalRobot · 09/03/2026 12:56

@MissScarletInTheBedroom
Why is your opening post and the video saying the complete opposite to each other. Why are you lying?

Helleofabore · 09/03/2026 12:56

Datun · 09/03/2026 12:48

All this.

Just say yes, like Starmer's 99% of women don't have cocks.

At least have the bloody courage of your convictions and articulate your daft ideology. Instead of pretending that for some reason it's too difficult. Sorry, complex.

They run everything through its lens, they campaign for it, they make rules dependent upon it, and they try to indoctrinate everyone into it, but they're too scared to actually say it out loud because they know it makes them look a) nuts and b) raging men's rights activists.

All women (and men) have to do is stand there, be normal - and ask.

I can't believe they don't see how shit it is 😄

I think we know the many 'whys' why they don't have an answer.

Partly it is because they don't fully support the subjective reality but don't want to be shown for not being fully supportive. I mean, considering the experiences of the woman and even Shahar Ali, if you were in the Greens and did want to keep your employment, I can understand it to some degree.

https://www.youtube.com/live/Bp-SVyBcVQQ?si=1o5HKrEyCFXJvs7t

A good reminder from Dr Pallavi Devulapalli.

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/live/Bp-SVyBcVQQ?si=1o5HKrEyCFXJvs7t

Hoardasurass · 09/03/2026 12:55

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 10:47

"But can you clarify: we here are pro women's rights. Is that in conflict with what trans people want?"

We are all pro-women's rights. That really should be obvious to you by now.

Is that in conflict with what trans people want? That depends. What is it you think trans people want?

What do trans people want. I can only tell you what the vocal abusive segments tell us they want and so far they've told us they want removal of all sex based rights and the ability to compelle other people's thoughts, language and religion , along with harmful drugs and surgeries for vulnerable confused children

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