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Hannah Spencer harassed in Manchester

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MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 08:42

Despite the fact that certain very vocal sections of this board are aggressively anti-trans and anti-Green, I'd gently suggest that this kind of confrontation and abuse is unacceptable in any civilised society, regardless of personal ideologies.

Link to article

Perhaps the saddest irony here is that these male bigots claim to be protecting women's rights whilst trying to attack a woman MP. On International Women's Day.

I'd be curious to see how other MNetters feel about this situation...

Green Party say 'Hannah Spencer won't be silenced' after Manchester violence

Hannah Spencer, Gorton and Denton's newly-elected MP, was ushered into a police car amid the unfolding chaos

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/green-party-hannah-spencer-mp-33554288

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Helleofabore · 10/03/2026 08:20

Some people will take any opportunity to patronise and demonise women.

DrBlackbird · 10/03/2026 08:15

SmallChildCryingTearsofButter · 09/03/2026 14:27

Outed themselves as what?

You’re getting very cryptic…

Women posting on boards organised around feminism and women’s rights outing themselves as… feminists concerned about the attack on women’s rights. It’s shocking.

DrBlackbird · 10/03/2026 08:06

RoyalCorgi · 09/03/2026 17:10

How would these people cope if the word "problematic" was banished from their vocabulary?

Despite being immersed in this shit for about nine years, I continue to be astonished by how unbelievably thick these people are. Maybe one day I'll come to terms with it.

Thick and mean. So many who are incredibly thin skinned, quick to take offence, short sighted, yet self righteous and arrogant.

Wait, are we talking about genderists or university faculty? I’m happy to include the lot together ie genderists academics.

Maybe academics more broadly. Maybe all university staff 🤔

Edited to add that coordinating an attack on an academic’s professional standing simply and only because she holds a different view on a matter is ruthless and the opposite of what education is supposed to mean based on values of open discussion and careful interrogation of a concept for its validity.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 09/03/2026 20:05
  1. low quality of her academic/policy work,
  2. her problematic connections to organizations such as Sex Matters, and
  3. how she and her work have impacted trans folks in the UK.
  1. says the researcher of a Professor's work. If they're soliciting information from Reddit, they'll likely to be nothing more than a low grade researcher for the rest of their career.
  2. Sex Matters is a women's right's organisation, only an anti-women misogynist would think a connection was problematic.
  3. Easy to answer, it hasn't impacted on them in anyway whatsoever.

Heaven forbid they actually attend the event and learn something, while they're in a place of higher education. They'll get nothing from the Reddits but dribble.

NewGoldFox · 09/03/2026 19:48

Shortshriftandlethal · 09/03/2026 15:00

The Matrix guy is not Billboard Chris.

Apologies, I’ve not watched either of them before but wanted to see the story for myself.
OP seems to have the completely wrong end of the stick from what I can see.

MouseQueen · 09/03/2026 19:31

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 11:10

Of course, this pitchforks and brand-waving clamour has rather derailed the thread, which presumably was the intention in the first place by the usual suspects here, but it has at least been instructive that it has provided a neatly clear picture about the political ideologies that are core to this forum.

Maybe the online magazine Jezebel was right when they said MN "has become a toxic breeding ground for transphobia"...? 🤔

Just back down, TRA. You've had your arguments disproven. You can't even outline what you, or trans activists want, instead you're asking us to? How can we, when you can't.

You think that transgender feeling is more important and takes precendent over women's rights. You're avoiding facing the truth and it shows. Just think, for one moment, without all of your ingrained brainwashed slogans. Think about it logically and you will see. It's okay to admit that you were wrong.

Greyskybluesky · 09/03/2026 19:27

OP has left the chat after being shown up for not understanding the situation properly

StormyPotatoes · 09/03/2026 19:24

Has OP actually condemned the Unison man who punched the women in the face?

Or is this another case of ‘hurty words’ (asking questions of an MP) actually worse than literal physical violence towards women?

efeslight · 09/03/2026 19:14

Am shocked at the violence from the man in the green hat who as far as I can understand, works for unison. I hope he is arrested soon

MarieDeGournay · 09/03/2026 18:48

We want to focus on three things:

  1. low quality of her academic/policy work

Yeah, she probably only got a job as Professor at UCL because no-one else applied and they were desperate, or something🙄

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/03/2026 18:27

WallaceinAnderland · 09/03/2026 17:06

Over on Reddit, this is what the TRAs are planning for Alice Sullivan.

Hi everyone, I am a researcher at one of the European universities. Prof. Alice Sullivan was invited to speak at one of the events. My colleagues and I are planning to do a protest during her visit.
We want to focus on three things:

  1. low quality of her academic/policy work,
  2. her problematic connections to organizations such as Sex Matters, and
  3. how she and her work have impacted trans folks in the UK.
We are already printing out her problematic tweets, mistakes in the Sullivan's Review for the UK government. Please, if you can, provide more information on other works of hers that are low-quality or problematic, why Sex Matters is hugely problematic, and, if you feel like it, your personal experience on how Sullivan/ her report/ Sex Matters/ the discourse around it has impacted your life as trans folks. We, of course, are doing our own research, but I thought this was a good place to ask, since my colleagues and I are mainly not from the UK and do not know the context well.

We plan to make her feel as unwelcome as it is possible!

Is anyone in touch with her, she should be made aware.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/03/2026 18:25

Shedmistress · 09/03/2026 12:46

Basially we are supposed to feel sorry for Hannah for being asked questions and completely ignore that one of her security punched a woman, because its ok to punch women if the men who punch the women are on the 'right side of history'? Or something?

That’s about the size of it, I think.

Helleofabore · 09/03/2026 18:03

Catiette · 09/03/2026 17:49

The problem is, when your arguments amount to shouting unintelligibly about bigotted brands and toxic pitchforks, you probably are better off taking the drowning-out approach.

Edited

No doubt you are correct there Catiette.

Catiette · 09/03/2026 17:49

Helleofabore · 09/03/2026 17:25

What a surprise....

So, are they going to debate her findings with her? Or just try to drown out her session so no one can hear? Because one would be the mature way to interact and the other not so much....

The problem is, when your arguments amount to shouting unintelligibly about bigotted brands and toxic pitchforks, you probably are better off taking the drowning-out approach.

FranticFrankie · 09/03/2026 17:29

The woman in the sparkly green jacket with the old trope pontificating about violence against women and girls being perpetuated by 'cisgender men' doesn't watch news or read a newspaper or read online! Where has she been? Bonkers absolutely bonkers

But at least she didn't punch Matrix or swear at him.

Helleofabore · 09/03/2026 17:25

WallaceinAnderland · 09/03/2026 17:06

Over on Reddit, this is what the TRAs are planning for Alice Sullivan.

Hi everyone, I am a researcher at one of the European universities. Prof. Alice Sullivan was invited to speak at one of the events. My colleagues and I are planning to do a protest during her visit.
We want to focus on three things:

  1. low quality of her academic/policy work,
  2. her problematic connections to organizations such as Sex Matters, and
  3. how she and her work have impacted trans folks in the UK.
We are already printing out her problematic tweets, mistakes in the Sullivan's Review for the UK government. Please, if you can, provide more information on other works of hers that are low-quality or problematic, why Sex Matters is hugely problematic, and, if you feel like it, your personal experience on how Sullivan/ her report/ Sex Matters/ the discourse around it has impacted your life as trans folks. We, of course, are doing our own research, but I thought this was a good place to ask, since my colleagues and I are mainly not from the UK and do not know the context well.

We plan to make her feel as unwelcome as it is possible!

What a surprise....

So, are they going to debate her findings with her? Or just try to drown out her session so no one can hear? Because one would be the mature way to interact and the other not so much....

Greyskybluesky · 09/03/2026 17:13

WallaceinAnderland · 09/03/2026 17:06

Over on Reddit, this is what the TRAs are planning for Alice Sullivan.

Hi everyone, I am a researcher at one of the European universities. Prof. Alice Sullivan was invited to speak at one of the events. My colleagues and I are planning to do a protest during her visit.
We want to focus on three things:

  1. low quality of her academic/policy work,
  2. her problematic connections to organizations such as Sex Matters, and
  3. how she and her work have impacted trans folks in the UK.
We are already printing out her problematic tweets, mistakes in the Sullivan's Review for the UK government. Please, if you can, provide more information on other works of hers that are low-quality or problematic, why Sex Matters is hugely problematic, and, if you feel like it, your personal experience on how Sullivan/ her report/ Sex Matters/ the discourse around it has impacted your life as trans folks. We, of course, are doing our own research, but I thought this was a good place to ask, since my colleagues and I are mainly not from the UK and do not know the context well.

We plan to make her feel as unwelcome as it is possible!

Ooh it's those folksy "folks" again!

What do they mean by "events" here?

RoyalCorgi · 09/03/2026 17:10

WallaceinAnderland · 09/03/2026 17:06

Over on Reddit, this is what the TRAs are planning for Alice Sullivan.

Hi everyone, I am a researcher at one of the European universities. Prof. Alice Sullivan was invited to speak at one of the events. My colleagues and I are planning to do a protest during her visit.
We want to focus on three things:

  1. low quality of her academic/policy work,
  2. her problematic connections to organizations such as Sex Matters, and
  3. how she and her work have impacted trans folks in the UK.
We are already printing out her problematic tweets, mistakes in the Sullivan's Review for the UK government. Please, if you can, provide more information on other works of hers that are low-quality or problematic, why Sex Matters is hugely problematic, and, if you feel like it, your personal experience on how Sullivan/ her report/ Sex Matters/ the discourse around it has impacted your life as trans folks. We, of course, are doing our own research, but I thought this was a good place to ask, since my colleagues and I are mainly not from the UK and do not know the context well.

We plan to make her feel as unwelcome as it is possible!

How would these people cope if the word "problematic" was banished from their vocabulary?

Despite being immersed in this shit for about nine years, I continue to be astonished by how unbelievably thick these people are. Maybe one day I'll come to terms with it.

FrippEnos · 09/03/2026 17:10

What an interesting twist on the truth you have put forward.

Its interesting that the trans lobby are still #nodebate and pretending the violence isn't from there side.

WallaceinAnderland · 09/03/2026 17:06

Over on Reddit, this is what the TRAs are planning for Alice Sullivan.

Hi everyone, I am a researcher at one of the European universities. Prof. Alice Sullivan was invited to speak at one of the events. My colleagues and I are planning to do a protest during her visit.
We want to focus on three things:

  1. low quality of her academic/policy work,
  2. her problematic connections to organizations such as Sex Matters, and
  3. how she and her work have impacted trans folks in the UK.
We are already printing out her problematic tweets, mistakes in the Sullivan's Review for the UK government. Please, if you can, provide more information on other works of hers that are low-quality or problematic, why Sex Matters is hugely problematic, and, if you feel like it, your personal experience on how Sullivan/ her report/ Sex Matters/ the discourse around it has impacted your life as trans folks. We, of course, are doing our own research, but I thought this was a good place to ask, since my colleagues and I are mainly not from the UK and do not know the context well.

We plan to make her feel as unwelcome as it is possible!

FranticFrankie · 09/03/2026 17:02

The guy who punched the woman in the face should be easily recognisable yes?
Appalling behaviour from a 'security' man.
I can't get over the police officer with his arm around Hannah the Plumber, but then hurty words were being hurled at her; literal violence don't ya know?
And the tall chap nudging Matrix- what have these 'perps' all got in common?
There was a lot of pushing and shoving with f ing and blinding
Again- what have they all got in common?
Not hard is it?

Shedmistress · 09/03/2026 16:58

Violetparis · 09/03/2026 13:24

I'm GC, the incident looks apalling and frightening for Hannah Spencer. I condone this as much as I condone events when GC women are harrassed by men. No wonder women are put off going into politics.

Wha do you condone exactly? Please be precise.

RedToothBrush · 09/03/2026 16:51

INeedAPensieve · 09/03/2026 15:04

In all seriousness though, the issue is men, again, being angry and aggressive and threatening.

Nobody on this board is anti anything, just pro women and safeguarding and ensuring that men (who, as a sex class are the main perpetrators of sex crimes and violence) do not gain access to women's single sex spaces. The Green party are essentially against safe spaces for women, and do not want women to have single sex spaces (they want men, however they identify, to be able to also have access), so people were protesting this and challenging this view.

Actually I'm anti-incel. Cos that's just men who hate women and I'm not keen on that.

RedToothBrush · 09/03/2026 16:48

BettyBooper · 09/03/2026 11:20

OP - A man attacked a woman and it's all YOUR FAULT! You must REPENT!

Everyone else - Er no, that's not what happened. Here's the evidence...

OP - You're derailing my thread with your PITCHFORKS!

🤣🤣🤣

Meanwhile actual crime in Brighton goes without so much of a whisper of condemnation from the Green Party. Indeed it's encouraged.

I do think that since FWR are apparently responsible for all murders and violent crime in the world according to the Incels of The World, we should own up to this as our personal responsibility for All Evil and have done with it, as it would make them all feel better about living in their Mums basement.

Until the next tantrum about how life isn't fair and how mean we all are.

DrBlackbird · 09/03/2026 16:38

Greyskybluesky · 09/03/2026 16:33

I don't have a pitchfork #sadtimes
I have a hoe, two rakes, two garden forks and various spades/shovels.
Will that do?

Sounds like perfectly acceptable pitchfork alternatives garden style 😁

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