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Hannah Spencer harassed in Manchester

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MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 08:42

Despite the fact that certain very vocal sections of this board are aggressively anti-trans and anti-Green, I'd gently suggest that this kind of confrontation and abuse is unacceptable in any civilised society, regardless of personal ideologies.

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Perhaps the saddest irony here is that these male bigots claim to be protecting women's rights whilst trying to attack a woman MP. On International Women's Day.

I'd be curious to see how other MNetters feel about this situation...

Green Party say 'Hannah Spencer won't be silenced' after Manchester violence

Hannah Spencer, Gorton and Denton's newly-elected MP, was ushered into a police car amid the unfolding chaos

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/green-party-hannah-spencer-mp-33554288

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Abhannmor · 10/03/2026 15:51

SwirlyGates · 10/03/2026 10:42

Ah, here they go again with "trans folks", a description chosen to make them sound a bit ditsy and harmless.

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Not sure it works though. I am irresistably reminded of duelling banjoes.

JanesLittleGirl · 10/03/2026 15:23

This sudden rash of posts across a number of threads suggests that Emily Thornbury's diary is unexpectedly blank.

DialSquare · 10/03/2026 14:58

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I dunno...pathetic time waster?

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 10/03/2026 14:49

Oh, it's the limp lettuce again.

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Excuse me?

Is your name actually This Jade Sealion?

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Greyskybluesky · 10/03/2026 14:30

Chersfrozenface · 10/03/2026 10:27

We need to look at the exact words.

"No, my definition of women does not include men pretending to be women.
No, that is not the type of woman who is marginalised."

The poster evidently believes that transwomen are not men pretending to be women, but in fact are women, and that transwomen are the type of women who are marginalised.

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Slippery.....

Helleofabore · 10/03/2026 14:27

If they actually engaged rather than took pop shots and spread misinformation under the guise of being well informed, maybe people would have engaged in return. I don’t believe they have landed any point with evidence, but really felt that that achieved massively.

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Helleofabore · 10/03/2026 13:09

Chersfrozenface · 10/03/2026 10:27

We need to look at the exact words.

"No, my definition of women does not include men pretending to be women.
No, that is not the type of woman who is marginalised."

The poster evidently believes that transwomen are not men pretending to be women, but in fact are women, and that transwomen are the type of women who are marginalised.

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Yes. Those words were of a true believer and one who has a personal definition of ‘woman’ that they then attempted to convince us was universal. When it most certainly is not.

So instead of clear and direct answers they engaged in fuckwittery and took the position that anyone who sought clarification was ‘dim’ or hateful (can’t remember the words used). If someone’s beliefs rely on their subjective reality being treated as if it is the material reality, I guess they have to use linguistic manipulation to justify it.

SwirlyGates · 10/03/2026 10:42

WallaceinAnderland · 09/03/2026 17:06

Over on Reddit, this is what the TRAs are planning for Alice Sullivan.

Hi everyone, I am a researcher at one of the European universities. Prof. Alice Sullivan was invited to speak at one of the events. My colleagues and I are planning to do a protest during her visit.
We want to focus on three things:

  1. low quality of her academic/policy work,
  2. her problematic connections to organizations such as Sex Matters, and
  3. how she and her work have impacted trans folks in the UK.
We are already printing out her problematic tweets, mistakes in the Sullivan's Review for the UK government. Please, if you can, provide more information on other works of hers that are low-quality or problematic, why Sex Matters is hugely problematic, and, if you feel like it, your personal experience on how Sullivan/ her report/ Sex Matters/ the discourse around it has impacted your life as trans folks. We, of course, are doing our own research, but I thought this was a good place to ask, since my colleagues and I are mainly not from the UK and do not know the context well.

We plan to make her feel as unwelcome as it is possible!

Ah, here they go again with "trans folks", a description chosen to make them sound a bit ditsy and harmless.

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 10:29

So will you condemn Ameen Hadi, @MissScarletInTheBedroom ?

Chersfrozenface · 10/03/2026 10:27

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 10:21

So your definition of women does not include transwomen then? Please clarify if that's what you're saying?

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We need to look at the exact words.

"No, my definition of women does not include men pretending to be women.
No, that is not the type of woman who is marginalised."

The poster evidently believes that transwomen are not men pretending to be women, but in fact are women, and that transwomen are the type of women who are marginalised.

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 10:23

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 12:30

Good job OP started this thread!

Absolutely! It's been... enlightening. Many posters have obligingly outed themselves here.

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As have you. When are you going to condemn the male Unison officer who punched a woman clear in the face?

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 10:21

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 12:28

No, my definition of women does not include men pretending to be women.
No, that is not the type of woman who is marginalised.

I'd have thought this should have been obvious...

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So your definition of women does not include transwomen then? Please clarify if that's what you're saying?

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 10:16

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 11:10

Of course, this pitchforks and brand-waving clamour has rather derailed the thread, which presumably was the intention in the first place by the usual suspects here, but it has at least been instructive that it has provided a neatly clear picture about the political ideologies that are core to this forum.

Maybe the online magazine Jezebel was right when they said MN "has become a toxic breeding ground for transphobia"...? 🤔

Point out the 'transphobia'. If being pro womens sex based rights is 'twwwannnsphobic', then being pro trans is anti women. Jezebel seems to be a hotbed of misogynistic femphobic political ideology.

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 10:14

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 11:05

"No idea tbh but why are they always so aggressive?"

You admit to having no idea about a marginalised group, but still condemn make statements that they want total domination?

I can't imagine any other situation in life where people have no idea about a group of people but are still aggressively opposed to them...

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Males are 50% of the population and are the predator and oppressor sex class. That doesn't change because a male puts on a dress. The fact that trans were able to obliterate womens sex based rights and spaces in one decade, have us redefined, reorder society promoting them on IWD, and getting women sacked who say no, is PROOF of that they are the most protected, most privileged and most powerful Sacred Caste there is.

Hannah Spencer harassed in Manchester
ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 10:02

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 10:47

"But can you clarify: we here are pro women's rights. Is that in conflict with what trans people want?"

We are all pro-women's rights. That really should be obvious to you by now.

Is that in conflict with what trans people want? That depends. What is it you think trans people want?

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You're not pro womens rights if you think it's ok for fully intact males to enter female only changing rooms and toilets because they wear a dress and claim to be a transwoman.

What is it you think trans people want?

Males in female spaces, sport, etc.

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 09:59

GingerBeverage · 09/03/2026 10:06

Politicians regularly face abuse these days.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ywp7lgwvro

So much so, some won't even talk on record about it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c334mj5l3ymo

Yes, and look at the abuse and death threats Rosie Duffield got from TRAs. She had to pull out of going on the hustings at one point. I bet the OP never condemned that.

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 09:48

The male Unison Rep punched a female journalist in the face. TRAs also started the physical conflict. So put the blame where it belongs OP. On TRAs. It's more evidence of TRA violence. They're really a cliche at this point.

MyAmpleSheep · 10/03/2026 08:29

DrBlackbird · 10/03/2026 08:06

Thick and mean. So many who are incredibly thin skinned, quick to take offence, short sighted, yet self righteous and arrogant.

Wait, are we talking about genderists or university faculty? I’m happy to include the lot together ie genderists academics.

Maybe academics more broadly. Maybe all university staff 🤔

Edited to add that coordinating an attack on an academic’s professional standing simply and only because she holds a different view on a matter is ruthless and the opposite of what education is supposed to mean based on values of open discussion and careful interrogation of a concept for its validity.

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You’ll know the quip about why academic competition is so bitchy? Because the stakes are so small…

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