Hannah Spencer harassed in Manchester

I used to think I did, back in the day. Which is probably why I'm no longer a fellow traveller. I left The Left behind when I realised that: Be Kind meant giving up my sex based rights.

Does no-one on the Left stop and engage brain first before speaking these days?

Blimey @IcakethereforeIam thanks for that re Kim Johnson. Both on Lush and that stupid tweet. Another handmaiden for me to add to my list. Punching women is ok by her 'cos Kim thinks he's a great guy? Far right? FFS.

"My mind is made up; don't confuse me with the facts"

Sign the petition for what? For men to be able to get away with punching women in the face?

Another Labour MP who should really watch the videos, Kim Johnson, Liverpool Riverside (also shills for Lush)

Found this article in the Manchester Evening News

Salford council staff member under investigation after Hannah Spencer Piccadilly Gardens incident - Manchester Evening News https://share.google/93OWilkyPOkPv6uAZ

The staff member is Ameen Hadi.

I did see this on YouTube re Hadi

I'm not sure if it's a reliable source though, and you have to go right to the end to see the proof.

Charged with Section 39 - common assault and battery.

According to Twitter Hadi has been arrested and charged. But I can't see it confirmed anywhere.

Who said 'if you see a terf, punch ...........
Maybe Mr Hadi heard it and decided he'd do just that

Not that we know the victim of this assault is a 'terf' -I don't want to label her if she isn't

Sadly I think that’s the most likely scenario.

You're possibly being over-generous: they possibly did watch the video, but concluded she was obviously a right-wing bigot, and violence against women like that is not just acceptable, it's heroic.

Well i really do hope hes investigated by the police because not only did he assault a woman he also tried to steal her phone so thats an attempted mugging with violence.
Whoever put that petition together clearly hasn't watched the video footage of the incident as it shows him trying to take her phone and when he couldn't rest it from her grip he punched her

I am shocked by this, although I know we should all be beyond shockable by now!

I watched the footage. There was a lot of general pushing and shoving and aggression going on, and AH was at the receiving end of some it if himself.

However, he clearly loses control and launches himself at the woman [sorry I don't know her name] and appears to hit her twice.

There may be some mitigation - he too was pushed and shoved and thumped and appears not to have started the whole thing - but that's not an excuse and the idea of making some kind of martyr out of him being 'now under attack from the right' when there's incontrovertible evidence that he hit a woman is... shocking-not-shocking.

Violence against women is violence against women full stop.

I see the Defend Ameen Hadi campaign is looking for messages of support on
[email protected]

I wouldn't want anyone to send them anything abusive, but they deserve some short, polite, restrained messages saying 'Violence against women is always wrong, even when the perpetrator is Ameen Hadi'

It doesn't matter what your politics are, punching someone in the face isn't lawful.

Yet it seems to be acceptable if the person you are punching in the face is a woman and you are on the left.

I don't care how respected you are, if you are a man and you punch a woman in the face you lose that respect.

A single punch can kill men. Women are even more likely to die from a single punch. That's why it's not lawful.

Your reputation shouldn't come in to it. "Oh well he was a good bloke but he's being smeared by the right for being a paedo" shouldn't be used ever to mitigate - precisely because it's a method to get away with shit. The same applies. It's a safeguarding issue.

Funny how paedophile association and practising VAWG seems to instigate the labour party to speak up and support the perpetrators.

It's becoming quite a theme isn't it?

Can any twiX users get a Community Note put on that?

Take this with a massive pinch of salt but according to tweets on Twitter Ameen Hadi is under investigation by his employer and the Police are investigating.

So John McDonnell MP decided to pick a side: https://x.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/2033272469138673694

https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/defend-ameen-hadi-and-salford-city-unison

Has this violent man answered for his actions yet, and has his union been notified?

😂mate you are funny.

Sorry if this has already been posted but when I watched Edge of the Matrix I only heard someone telling Steve about it. Here is the moment the Unison rep hit a woman in the face - captured on camera - what a charming fellow! Happy IWD everyone!
https://x.com/ajcdeane/status/2031015710206411030

I always hear "Volk" & am never surprised that the association has not occurred to them.

When men get involved it all goes wrong.

But they're a bit coy on the topic.

Lots of aren’t I clever witticisms and references suggestive of a gender studies academic. Though granted, no Butler citations as yet I think. And quite a few digs about pitchforks. What’s missing, however, is clarity of what exactly they do believe in this discussion.

Also missing is a justification or explanation of their position. Though I don’t believe there have been many TRAs who have remained around to do so apart from bekind/you’re mean and one or two trying to argue on the basis of clownfish/DSDs/Sex variation in other animals.

But ^^ their ‘definition’ of woman is not one based on the courage of their convictions.

Purty!