Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) removed from IWD event by police

KJK set fire to my budgie and keyed my car while playing the Floral Dance on badly tuned set of bagpipes.

Hang on, is this the interaction that @Waheymum was referring to?

It's nothing like she described!

Probably corrected the gender of the "victim"

Given that the friend must have approached KJK and addressed her, in full knowledge of who she was, then said friend is fully responsible for placing themselves in a position they must have known they were too unstable to cope with.

I think we can safely assume KJK did not approach a random person who was passing in the street.

I’ve said it often before, if transitioning patients are so unstable that they can’t cope with living in the real world, then the so-called “treatment” is worse than useless.

Something tells me that was merely your friend's interpretation of what KJK said, minus quite a bit of context that would be useful for us to have here, rather than a literal, verbatim repeat of exactly what was said to him/her.

And that damaged your friend's mental health wellbeing!? I'd have laughed.

Sounds like your friend's " mental health wellbeing" wasn't that sound to start with.

And it sounds like KJK was actually challenging some cognitive dissonance on your friend's part, which is what she does well, rather than being verbally abusive.

Nottingham is getting up there with Brighton and Bristol.

Got any evidence for that? Or, as with everything trans, are we supposed to accept an unsubstantiated assertion?

I remember this. I think she showed kindness in her restraint.

Examples of emotional and verbal abuse are: Screaming and shouting at you. Mocking you, calling you hurtful names or using derogatory words about you

I think what you describe above might be considered to be "an opinion" and not at all "verbal abuse".

It doesn't sound like a particularly nice thing to say, but as we know nothing of the context we can't judge - other than to say this wouldn't be considered "abuse".

KJK the atheist? Yeah, I don't think that happened, at least not in the way your friend describes it.

This video came to mind as I read your comment.

She asks him whether he thinks his mother plays along with his assertion that he's a woman, so as not to upset him and also asks him if God made a mistake by creating him a man (after he explains that he's a Christian), not that God hates him.

I reckon there might be more to the story than KJK randomly saying offensive things to a completely innocent person who was simply walking past her.

Sounds unlikely.

No. She said that God hates my friend (who is Christian), and that my friend's mother hates my friend (she doesn't).

I am wondering if verbal abuse equals being told that a person is the sex they were born.

Let me guess.
She called him a man?
Second guess - she called her a woman?

Here are the people protesting Connie Shaw.

https://x.com/_connieshaw/status/2029932160052756796?s=46

To speak at an event she was invited to speak at she had “two body guards, the Met Police and campus security”.

Oh dear,how sad,never mind.

I'd comment that my friend does not verbally abuse women, and that you can't judge an entire group of people based on the actions of some of them, otherwise we'd be terrified of everyone.

This.

Women say blunt things that are true but not wrapped in emotional padding and men get hurt feelings. Men just attempt to silence women through yelling abuse using inane falsehoods that are wrapped in mantras, act in threatening and intimidatory way and get aggressive.

Yet apparently it is all symmetrical and comparative.

You mean she referred to your friend as male? If your friend's mental health is that fragile maybe they should seek therapy to be more resilient.

Notts police force have been useless for a while. But there again so are most police forces.