Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) removed from IWD event by police

Personally, I've no time for Posie Parker or for those who support her and I'm pleased to hear that Nottingham police took this stance.
This is not about silencing women, however much some people - including Paker herself - would like to believe it is; it's about the removal of a deeply repugnant figure who uses her platform to spread hate-speech.

Parker is infamous for her aggressive right-wing stance, her repeated praise of far-right figures such as Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (Tommy Robinson), and her ties to white supremacy groups and ideologies (she has repeatedly written for right-wing publications such as The Spectator, is on friendly terms with neo-Nazi and holocaust denier Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen, was interviewed by the far-right network Soldiers of Christ Online, and used a Barbie doll wearing a Nazi uniform as her profile picture on the social media site Spinster).
And those are just a tiny handful of examples; a full breakdown of her associations to the far-right would require an entire thread. Probably several.

Where anti-trans and women's rights are concerned, she's no less controversial.

Jean Hatchet, a genuine GC advocate and activist, cut all ties with Parker over her neo-facist affiliations.

Her hostile behaviour is so bad that Woman's Place UK - itself a group opposed to gender self-identification for trans people - had to cut links to Parker citing "her stated views on race and religion" as the reason.
Under pressure, that same group had to reiterate their continued distance from her in 2022 when they supplied evidence of her racist social media posts as continued justifcation for their position.

And let us not forget the overwhelming global opposition to the hate she spreads. After her Australian rally was attended by a large number of neo-Nazis (and not just ideologically; actual Nazi saluting neo-Nazis), her subsequent attempt to hold rallies in New Zealand was met with such opposition that Parker - rightly in my view - was compelled to leave the country.

So, in summation, I repeat that we should be very careful tying ourselves to figures like this simply because one aspect of what they're saying aligns with our personal beliefs.
She is not a champion of women's rights. She is a hate-filled, neo-Nazi sympathising, racist who feeds off controversy and then cries foul when society in general says "No, we are not going to accept you in our community".

"She can be divisive but I admire her tenacity and she along with any other woman has every right to go to an event for women without facing harassment"

But it seems like she was allowed to attend, reportedly upset other women at the event so was then asked to leave by the organisers and refused to do so.

Don't the other women there have the right to attend and not to be "harassed" ( on camera ) by her?

Like that makes it ok?!

Asking women’s organisations if they only cater for women gets you removed by law enforcement in 21st century UK?? Wow.

It has not updated the database about the fact that Jean Hatchet apologised and said she was wrong to have started all that in the first place.

No. She said that God hates my friend (who is Christian), and that my friend's mother hates my friend (she doesn't).

Did you just use AI to summarise Wikipedia? This is hilarious.

I recommend that you also look at the threads for Moira Deemings case against Pesutto and what the Judge thought of the dossier that someone who was supposed to be doing serious political research but compiled using Wikipedia.

Personally, I've no time for Posie Parker or for those who support her and I'm pleased to hear that Nottingham police took this stance.
This is not about silencing women, however much some people - including Paker herself - would like to believe it is; it's about the removal of a deeply repugnant figure who uses her platform to spread hate-speech.

Parker is infamous for her aggressive right-wing stance, her repeated praise of far-right figures such as Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (Tommy Robinson), and her ties to white supremacy groups and ideologies (she has repeatedly written for right-wing publications such as The Spectator, is on friendly terms with neo-Nazi and holocaust denier Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen, was interviewed by the far-right network Soldiers of Christ Online, and used a Barbie doll wearing a Nazi uniform as her profile picture on the social media site Spinster).
And those are just a tiny handful of examples; a full breakdown of her associations to the far-right would require an entire thread. Probably several.

Where anti-trans and women's rights are concerned, she's no less controversial.

Jean Hatchet, a genuine GC advocate and activist, cut all ties with Parker over her neo-facist affiliations.

Her hostile behaviour is so bad that Woman's Place UK - itself a group opposed to gender self-identification for trans people - had to cut links to Parker citing "her stated views on race and religion" as the reason.
Under pressure, that same group had to reiterate their continued distance from her in 2022 when they supplied evidence of her racist social media posts as continued justifcation for their position.

And let us not forget the overwhelming global opposition to the hate she spreads. After her Australian rally was attended by a large number of neo-Nazis (and not just ideologically; actual Nazi saluting neo-Nazis), her subsequent attempt to hold rallies in New Zealand was met with such opposition that Parker - rightly in my view - was compelled to leave the country.

So, in summation, I repeat that we should be very careful tying ourselves to figures like this simply because one aspect of what they're saying aligns with our personal beliefs.
She is not a champion of women's rights. She is a hate-filled, neo-Nazi sympathising, racist who feeds off controversy and then cries foul when society in general says "No, we are not going to accept you in our community".

Why is she ALWAYS doing this 😩

To go back to the original purpose of this thread. KJK was asking if women's organisations were actually focused on women or women and some men. And for this she and the LWS representatives were thrown out of the event. An event for women who had overcome all kinds of obstacles, violence from men mainly, but a woman asking questions was a step too far.

KJK used the last of my milk so none for my morning tea AND ate my last rolo

You can dislike KJK and still be outraged that she was ejected from a women's event by asking if organisations for women excluded men.

It strikes me as an entirely reasonable question.

And I wasn't aware that writing for the Spectator is incontrovertible proof that someone is a fascist.

Good! She verbally abused a close friend of mine that happens to be transgender a while ago and really damaged my friend's mental mental wellbeing. I think there are ways to protest without verbal abuse of individuals.

Classic ad hominem and no attempt to address the actual points raised, including that many prominent and genuine GC activists are opposed to your beloved Parker and have publicly cut all associations with her, I see.

Facts you find uncomfortable don't cease being facts because you find them uncomfortable.

I think we have the measure of you now.

Classic ad hominem and no attempt to address the actual points raised, including that many prominent and genuine GC activists are opposed to your beloved Parker and have publicly cut all associations with her, I see.

Facts you find uncomfortable don't cease being facts because you find them uncomfortable.

I think we have the measure of you now.

I see.

Do you have any comment on the verbal abuse that women, like KJK, are currently facing from transgender people?

Death threats, rape threats, threats against our children, malicious reports to our employers… The list goes on and on…

Do you not consider that this might affect our mental wellbeing? Or do only the feelings of men matter to you?

I am wondering if verbal abuse equals being told that a person is the sex they were born.

Classic ad hominem and no attempt to address the actual points raised, including that many prominent and genuine GC activists are opposed to your beloved Parker and have publicly cut all associations with her, I see.

Facts you find uncomfortable don't cease being facts because you find them uncomfortable.

I think we have the measure of you now.

I don't know when you meet one you should ask them, it'll give you a goal to work toward. Personal growth is a good thing. 👍

Indeed. People with working moral compasses do have the most annoying habit of calling out those who spread division and hate, don't they?

I wonder why that might be... 🤔