Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) removed from IWD event by police

"She can be divisive but I admire her tenacity and she along with any other woman has every right to go to an event for women without facing harassment"

But it seems like she was allowed to attend, reportedly upset other women at the event so was then asked to leave by the organisers and refused to do so.

Don't the other women there have the right to attend and not to be "harassed" ( on camera ) by her?

https://x.com/WRNDerbyshire/status/2030032560969892031

Personally, I've no time for Posie Parker or for those who support her and I'm pleased to hear that Nottingham police took this stance.
This is not about silencing women, however much some people - including Paker herself - would like to believe it is; it's about the removal of a deeply repugnant figure who uses her platform to spread hate-speech.

Parker is infamous for her aggressive right-wing stance, her repeated praise of far-right figures such as Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (Tommy Robinson), and her ties to white supremacy groups and ideologies (she has repeatedly written for right-wing publications such as The Spectator, is on friendly terms with neo-Nazi and holocaust denier Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen, was interviewed by the far-right network Soldiers of Christ Online, and used a Barbie doll wearing a Nazi uniform as her profile picture on the social media site Spinster).
And those are just a tiny handful of examples; a full breakdown of her associations to the far-right would require an entire thread. Probably several.

Where anti-trans and women's rights are concerned, she's no less controversial.

Jean Hatchet, a genuine GC advocate and activist, cut all ties with Parker over her neo-facist affiliations.

Her hostile behaviour is so bad that Woman's Place UK - itself a group opposed to gender self-identification for trans people - had to cut links to Parker citing "her stated views on race and religion" as the reason.
Under pressure, that same group had to reiterate their continued distance from her in 2022 when they supplied evidence of her racist social media posts as continued justifcation for their position.

And let us not forget the overwhelming global opposition to the hate she spreads. After her Australian rally was attended by a large number of neo-Nazis (and not just ideologically; actual Nazi saluting neo-Nazis), her subsequent attempt to hold rallies in New Zealand was met with such opposition that Parker - rightly in my view - was compelled to leave the country.

So, in summation, I repeat that we should be very careful tying ourselves to figures like this simply because one aspect of what they're saying aligns with our personal beliefs.
She is not a champion of women's rights. She is a hate-filled, neo-Nazi sympathising, racist who feeds off controversy and then cries foul when society in general says "No, we are not going to accept you in our community".

The women's centre started including men back in 1998. God knows what they were thinking because a few years before that they were pretty strict about only lesbians using the lesbian social area, and a woman I met who was exploring her sexual orientation as her marriage ended told me she had been warned not to mention the marriage, for reasons that I didn't understand.

Good! She verbally abused a close friend of mine that happens to be transgender a while ago and really damaged my friend's mental mental wellbeing. I think there are ways to protest without verbal abuse of individuals.

Always was there, in fact it's something of a ground zero. Take a look at their adult Gender Clinic & the University, particularly NU's former professor, Michael O'Flaherty.

You are lucky you had any fresh milk left she curdles all the milk in my house at the mere mention of her name. Oh bugger, done it again.

For some people, aligning with any person, publication or organisation that isn't fully indoctrinated in the ideologies of the 'progessive left' is evidence of that they are far right leaning and fascist.

Nottingham is getting up there with Brighton and Bristol.

"She can be divisive but I admire her tenacity and she along with any other woman has every right to go to an event for women without facing harassment"

But it seems like she was allowed to attend, reportedly upset other women at the event so was then asked to leave by the organisers and refused to do so.

Don't the other women there have the right to attend and not to be "harassed" ( on camera ) by her?

God might not "hate" any believers or indeed non believers but if any humans do things he doesnt like, like wearing the clothes of the opposite sex or not praising and honouring him all the time, he will condemn them to punishment in the shape of not allowing them eternal life. "Hate" might not be the right word but you're dancing on the head of a pin here.

God, as described in the Christian religion and its various sects, is not a cool guy who likes everyone, he punishes and disapproves of lots of people and lots of behaviorus. Jesus might be more loving to some extent, but he's also ok with slave owning and various other things, and anyway he is part of God according to the doctrine of the Trinity, so they are both accountable.

I still can't see why a trans person would not be offended by the Christian religion which doesn't really accept them nor want them as a member. And at the same time get offended by other humans in a different group (gender critical women) saying something similar. And even more egregiously getting annoyed that a gender critical woman points out the harsh standards displayed by God as described in the Christian religious texts.

I can see a person insisting that Kellie Jay Keen is racist. I don't agree with this, but just for a minute I will set aside that accusation and not challenge it.

As I understand it she didn't mention race at the event at all. Her entire focus was on checking that when other attendees and the organisers spoke about women that they actually meant women. That, and possibly her abrupt manners, is why she was asked to leave.

The implication appears to be that she should simply be excluded from all further events due to the racism accusation. No wonder her opponents are trying so hard to make that stick as then they can keep on including men in women's spaces without any opposition.

It's really bizarre that being anti-racist seems to mean also not knowing what a woman is.

"You can dislike KJK and still be outraged that she was ejected from a women's event by asking if organisations for women excluded men"

But she was ejected for upsetting other women at the event. She further said she has video records of all these discussions. Perhaps some of those women were unwilling to be filmed and she obviously filmed them anyway. Regardless multiple women must have complained.

Some of these women might have been employed of whatever organisation they were representing and not in charge of deciding policy but still subject to code of conduct etc.

I advise you to cease using Wikipedia on the assumption it is a source of verifiable fact; it isn't.

And don't trust a single source either; you should cross-reference your facts with at least one other source, preferably more.

Hope this helps.

It is interesting to see discussions about moral compasses when someone takes Wikipedia as being an accurate source of information for a political entity that someone is determined to misrepresent.

By all means, stick to facts. What is important is to not make the error of believing that someone shares a person’s views when they do interviews or share a platform. That is tribalism and not critical thought.

Oh dear... you are, and not for the first time judging by your posting history, rather missing the point.

I repeat my earlier statement, facts you find uncomfortable don't cease to be facts because you find them uncomfortable.

The clear, verifiable facts that many actual feminists and activists for women's rights have publicly severed all association with Parker due to - again, those pesky facts are creeping in here - her repeated, clear, factual racism and association with far-right ideology should really be suggesting that perhaps, just perhaps, you need to think critically and question your own motives before compounding your foolishness with your futile attempts to attack anyone who calls Parker out for exactly what she is.

My moral compass is fine; how's yours?