Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) removed from IWD event by police

Would the same rules be applied?
Tut, no, of course not, you're missing the point!

(I have NFI what the point is, but I'm sure we'd be told that there is one that we're too stupid to understand, and that we should go and find verification on the internet. Or something.)

That moment you read something and think, "Yes! - THAT!"

Your friend needs to grow a pair

I could mention some UK feminists who pride themselves on their socialist political beliefs that are also now victims of this same guilt by association so are 'aligned' with KJK.

This is how ludicrous these guilt by association accusations are. I think we should bring this up every time we get a plopper who continues to use these accusations.

If those 'actual feminists' have people in their group that are now through guilt by association aligned with KJK, where does this leave the poster making the claims?

your repeated, rabid, pseudo-rebuttals of opposition to her do nothing but make you look ridiculous

Rabid?!

And in the same line as the words "make you look ridiculous", too.

Up to this point, I'd been reading your posts with cautious interest, because aspects of PP trouble me. I admire her tenacity and have found the rebuttals of your accusations pretty convincing over the years. But I'm always on the look out for further information. I thought you may provide it. But repeating "factually verifiable" doesn't make something true. In fact, the more often it comes up without said verification, the more it looks rather dubious. Couple it with calling BlackCat's strongly-worded perspective "rabid", and you risk losing credibility.

And by the same token, Lydia Thorpe is completely aligned with KJK too. I bet that she will be thrilled by this fact.

If you don't agree with people you are an 'ist' or a 'phobe' but if they say something to upset you then it's further evidence of how intolerant you are. Their feelings are vital. Yours are a sign of what a bad person you are.

Is it another one of those irregular verbs? I am subjected to literal violence, their mental heath is endangered, you are educated about your fascism and intolerance?

'Still, if Kellie's a racist because a group of neo-Nazi's turned up uninvited to one of her rallies, I wonder what would happen if the same thing happened at all sorts of other rallies? Would the same rules be applied?'

This is the thing. By the same token, some of those feminists who the poster has declared are the actual feminists and worthy of being considered an authority on the topic of KJK, would be considered extreme transgender rights activists even though they apparently campaign for the same single sex provisions that KJK does.

Because those extreme transgender rights activists turn up to conferences and meetings just the same way as the Neo-nazis turned up to the LWS Melbourne rally.

These are inconvenient facts though and anyone mentioning them are to be belittled and derided and also considered far right.. or something.

The brief version is 'I'm right, you're wrong and either I swallowed a dictionary or my answer was generated by ChatBot GPT.'

Anyone who speaks for 'us' needs to be watched very carefully because the chances are that they speak for themselves and their mates, who need to be reminded that they do not speak for anyone else, no matter how loudly they shout and how often they 'adjust' their facts to suit their cause.

It's a prime example of what I call 'you're a stinky poo pants and your mother dresses you funny' debate. If you don't agree with people you are an 'ist' or a 'phobe' but if they say something to upset you then it's further evidence of how intolerant you are. Their feelings are vital. Yours are a sign of what a bad person you are.

Still, if Kellie's a racist because a group of neo-Nazi's turned up uninvited to one of her rallies, I wonder what would happen if the same thing happened at all sorts of other rallies? Would the same rules be applied?

Yes I'd be interested to hear this as I've haven't ever seen her lose her cool let alone be abusive.
I wonder if she told this person's friend that you cannot change sex? That is violence and abuse on planet trans.

What exactly did she say?

I'd have loved JKR to have been in the area and popped in to ask about their 'women's' services.

She is brilliant, so articulate and so calm in the face of utter mumbling halfwits.

I wonder why none of them could debate effectively with her? That comms person particularly useless.

A woman thrown out of an event for women by police to appease men is quite the sick joke.

Gosh… that journo mangled it. A ‘gender’ activist now.

I was loving the next projection that shone brightly.

Tomaten auf den Augen haben...

Oh aye.

Would this be “Gender Rights Activist” KJK?

FFS

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15625953/activist-Kellie-Jay-Keen-forced-event-womens-day-police.html

😂

Oh dear. Die Kinder randalieren in der Kindergarten, as we say in my classes.

Die Kinder randalieren in dem Kindergarten.
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Oh dear. Die Kinder randalieren in der Kindergarten, as we say in my classes.

It would appear that there are a number of people - largely the usual suspects, I see - who are experiencing some difficulties with facts here. Well, Tomaten auf den Augen haben...

To get back to the actual point of this thread and away from the visiting TRAs’ attempts at distraction (OMG this person has committed SIN and is probably not whispers a virgin) - in Nottingham single sex services break the law by admitting men and, when concerns are raised about this, the Police are called to deal with the person raising concerns.

Regardless of the moral or otherwise state of KJK that is not the way a functioning democracy or a Police force should be run. Discussion, debate and truth telling are central to a healthy society. Everyone, whatever side they take on this issue, should be calling this out.

How about now?

….or now?

So… which are the ‘actual feminists’ again?

I don't know but I was reading an article earlier by some academic (a women of course) who's using the term Counterfeit Feminist, weirdly she seems to think it's the feminist who don't believe in counterfeit women who are the Counterfeit Feminist's Make that make sense. 🤯

Until it’s not swift?

How long are we supposed to wait?