Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) removed from IWD event by police

And by ‘we’. I mean ‘you’ .

Would you care to post the link to the entire interview with Gariépy so we can all see what was said and the full context? no? Are we just continuing with the regurgitation of other’s opinions and interpretation ?

"You only need to browse through her Twitter feed"
Absolutely. The evidence is abundant of KJK's swing to white nationalism.

Unfortunately, some people are either too lazy or, what I suspect is actually happening here, disinclined to undertake any research that contradicts their fragile bias.

Of possible relevance to what may be happening on this thread and forum, in an article that covers KJK's interview with Canadian far-right nationalist Jean-François Gariépy, Jezebel noted - and I quote - "On the British parenting website Mumsnet, which has become a toxic breeding ground for transphobia, many women praised Parker for appearing on Gariépy’s show. One commenter thanked her for “bringing the truth about genderism to a wider audience.” The approval often noted how hateful Gariépy’s ideologies are before setting that concern aside and agreeing that it’s good to spread the word on anti-trans bigotry"

"How did you make the leap"
Because that is precisely the brand of mental gymnastics perpetrated by certain people. When you attack, or even point out, that figures they idolise are not only not what they seem but are in fact the sort of people that should give any sensible, reasonable member of society pause, they react with illogical nonsense such as you mustn't care about the oppression of women if you have a problem with a white-nationalist.
It'd be laughable if it wasn't so pernicious.

Facts that you find uncomfortable don't cease being facts because you find them uncomfortable

Oooh, like 'transwomen are men' 'no woman has a penis' 'humans cannot change sex'?

Maybe it is all just a case of, it is not what is being asked but who is asking it? And it is not what is asked but how it is asked?

Surely serving police officers who at an event with what seems to be the intention to discuss protecting women and that region’s deputy PCC could have said something like, let me take your details and look at any reports we have and discuss it with you as soon as I have found out more to answer your specific questions about that event.

Do you think she should be removed from events by the police @ItsNotOrwell? And how far would you go with that? Who else should be removed from events by the police, just people with unpalatable opinions about Islam?

KJK is well hated by reality deniers, which tells you all you need to know about them.

You're not discussing anything, you casting unsupported aspersions at KJK, the pushback you're getting is because of that. You can make any claims you like, you just need to back them up, you should be able to if you're claims had any merit. Where is your evidence she's a racist?

I have read her twitter feed every now and then. I have never seen any white nationalism at all. Again, provide actual proof such as screenshots. It's not enough to say 'oh I read it on her twitter feed'. Not good enough Provide proof.

How did you make the leap that because I’ve questioned something about KJK I mustn’t then care about the oppression of women?

You said "Does it not interest you that she has seemed to ride the wave of the latest things to be outraged about: trans, boys in girls sport, Muslims, hijabi-wearing women, Palestine (as opposed to Gaza) … the list goes on. Why could this be?"

What is wrong with KJK caring about those issues???

I see that hyperbolic and catastrophising generalisations are your go to discussion tools.

Getting back to the thread topic, do you think that women should be allowed to ask questions about single sex provisions from organisational representatives at International Women’s Day?

Gracious. We can’t discuss KJK on a thread about KJK - it’s “derailing”. We must only discuss KJK in the gentlest, most congratulatory terms.

Do resume discussing KJK while not discussing KJK.

If this is supposed to be a comparable situation, I think your comparative fails on a few aspects.

The women were at an International Women’s Day event, and the people who were asked the questions were there representing their organisations on the day and were asked about their organisation’s policies.

I got asked to leave an event the other day for referring to one of the other attendees as morbidly obese. I was speaking the truth and didn't mean it offensively. Why should I have to deny the reality of biology and be forced to play along with other people's delusions?

You only need to browse through her Twitter feed to see evidence of her swing to white nationalism. Not patriotism, mind: the TR brand of nationalism.

How did you make the leap that because I’ve questioned something about KJK I mustn’t then care about the oppression of women?

And what part of the post you quoted did you miss about “We are though pointing out the discrepancy between the accusations and what is a more accurate and less prejudiced representation”. And also the part about not agreeing with everything that KJK says and does.

KJK has always been publicly discussing the need for female single sex provision away from male people. Did you miss this somehow in your need to portray her as a far right extremist? So, yes since she started Let Women Speak she has been discussing the negative impact of male people with transgender identities on those provisions, including female sports.

When has she changed stopped doing that? Do you agree that female people should have female single sex provisions protected by law and policy?

Do you believe that she had a valid point about the Nottingham Police, who failed to protect the Let Women Speak public event and allowed women to be kettled and intimidated by a mostly male protest group, not being as committed to protecting female people from male violence in practise as they promote that they are? That the Nottingham Police don’t take active steps to protect women despite that being something they promote doing?

If you want to discuss her opinions on Islamist actions, I would suggest that you be accurate in your accusations and not just lazily sweep it all up into an accusation of her having concerns about Muslim people in general. Is it ‘white nationalist” to be concerned by Islamist actions? Really? That seems to me to be a catastrophisating generalisation of the issue and an inaccurate framing. Maybe start your own thread though, so as not to derall this one which was specifically about KJK and other women being removed from an IWD event because she asked questions.

@ItsNotOrwell KJK made the comment about little girls in hijabs nearly a decade ago. She’s hardly jumping on a bandwagon.

PP has evolved into a white nationalist

Again, evidence of this please. If you cannot back your slurs up with evidence, then you're wasting your time posting.

Does it not interest you that she has seemed to ride the wave of the latest things to be outraged about: trans, boys in girls sport, Muslims, hijabi-wearing women, Palestine (as opposed to Gaza) … the list goes on. Why could this be?

Ummmm..... because she like many of us here care about womens subjugation and oppression? Is that beyond your understanding? Are you saying that you don't care about those things?

Yes, it sounds very unhinged.

again, a woman whose consistent, factually verifiable, racism

Again, this is a lie. And you have provided absolutely no evidence whatsoever of this.

I am swift to defend people who have been lied about, yes. I saw what happened to 3 women here in Australia (Moira Deeming, Sall Grover and Angie Jones), the latter being a Jewish woman who was called a nazi just because nazis gatecrashed the event. I saw how the slurs affected them, and caused their children to be abused in the neighbourhood and at school. I heard one of them break down in tears at the stress.

So yes, I do defend women, any women even ones I am politically diametrically opposed to ordinarily, against unfounded lies and smears.

Hope this helps.

PS If you have any, any evidence of her racism, any at all whatsoever, don't hesitate to post it.

All that aside, does it not bother you then that PP has evolved into a white nationalist who tweets Tommy Robinson and ethno-nationalist slop - a good deal of it recycled from the US - non-stop? Does it not interest you that she has seemed to ride the wave of the latest things to be outraged about: trans, boys in girls sport, Muslims, hijabi-wearing women, Palestine (as opposed to Gaza) … the list goes on. Why could this be?

Of ovaries perhaps. Though that's giving me flashbacks of discussions with very young children about need vs want.

I have a lot of admiration for kjk, she has given much time and energy to shine sunlight on this issue and usually gives cogent arguments even when understandably aggravated. To see a woman being escorted from an event for women because she wants to centre women, (which in 2026 we apparently need the highest court in the land to define), is peak cognitive dissonance.

Have only just had time to catch up with this thread, and was going to post DM article as even if the writer doesn't understand the issue (I thought the DM understood about GC feminism?!) as I now sort of grasp the time line.

But ... as I posted last night NWC and YMCA have both been trans inclusive for years.

So it isn't about whether they are breaching their aims and objectives, but more why dont they have single sex services for women and girls as one of their objectes.

But despite this niggle, get the police to (forcibly?) remove her is disgusting.

Although I think they do this to up the hysteria over the most vulnerable group claim.

As though having photos of a woman in a pink trousers suit being "escorted" out of a building illustrates just how threatening and dangerous the threat is to the most vulnerable.

Literal words are a threat?

A translated précis of Ms Scarlett's various effusions here runs thusly; "My friends & I are simply super, we have all the correct opinions & the best sources, ie; those that confirm our priors. Those who disagree with us on any point are all LitERaL nAzIS!"

What is also remarkable is the accusation that it is that apparently we are making 'feeble attempts to attack' the poster who has resorted to personal attacks. While the group being derided as the 'usual suspects' are not personally attacking the poster at all.

We are though pointing out the discrepancy between the accusations and what is a more accurate and less prejudiced representation of what has happened etc. But as usual, we are 'fans' of KJK for wanting accuracy in accusations whereas, I believe 'the usual suspects' have said in the past and will say again that they don't agree with everything that KJK says and does.

There is a difference though in deliberately repeating fuckwittery that couldn't stand up in court in a defamation case, and discussing what you do and don't agree with.

"I'm sure we'd be told that there is one that we're too stupid to understand, and that we should go and find verification on the internet. Or something."

Indeed. We are infant schooler, and blinded by tomatoes... while the poster declares that we should seek to "Make sure you cross-check each of your statements, as I do, with at least two other sources. Trust me, it will help you enormously."

Because apparently, two sources both using the same dodgy article that merely checks that an event happened rather than that the interpretation and recording of the event that happened was an accurate representation is all that is needed. It is actually funny after we saw the judge in Victoria express frustration that a supposedly highly educated and professional research team that was the Victorian Liberal party team made the error of doing just that. As if checking that an event actually happened is all that is needed to then publish an inaccurate interpretation of events.

But ... none so blinded....