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Guiding -ffs they don’t give up do they!

59 replies

averylongtimeago · 04/03/2026 12:09

Latest on their campaign to include males. Trying to get round the law and their own charitable aims. Girls just aren’t important enough on their own!
From their latest FB post-

“How we’re exploring future opportunities for trans girls and trans women to connect with and be supported by Girlguiding ⬇️

In December last year, our equality and diversity policy changed following the Supreme Court’s decision on sex and gender. Since then, we’ve been making steady progress with the taskforce to explore how trans girls and trans women can connect with and be supported by Girlguiding in the future. Over 3,000 of you responded to our taskforce.

The taskforce is a community of around 500 people with a common interest, who come together to share information, generate ideas and explore different ways of offering support. A big part of the taskforce is our panel of 16 people, including people with lived experience, senior volunteers, members, young people, country and region staff and volunteers, parents and carers and subject matter experts.

The taskforce as a whole is considering over 100 ideas which have been grouped into themes, and the theme being discussed right now is ‘showing support for trans girls, trans women and the trans+ community’. Ideas in this theme include holding events, creating activities and campaigns.

We’ll keep you updated on the progress of the taskforce on social media and our website. See here for more information: https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/information-for-volunteers/updates-for-our-members/taskforce-updates/.

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TheGreenTeddy · 04/03/2026 19:08

Also, did they ever say what was happening with the boys currently in girl guides? I’m sure they would be confirming ‘next week’ months ago when they said no new boys can join but didn’t? Unless I missed it?

lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 19:02

Theunamedcat · 04/03/2026 18:48

Am I missing something? Just take the girl part out and be guides mixed sex like scouts did what is with all the handwringing nonsense yes they will still need to have sex segregation for tents but with (allegedly) so many trans children they should be able to have their own tents? Trans girls in one trans boys in the other?

Why so much fucking ANGST

Scouts is already mixed sex. Guiding is (supposed to be) just for girls.

Don't you think that girls should have any spaces free from males @Theunamedcat ?

lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 18:59

Wow I completely missed that one.

I almost feel sorry for Chris, must be really upsetting not to be able to do the equivalent on MN.

ditalini · 04/03/2026 18:57

Theunamedcat · 04/03/2026 18:48

Am I missing something? Just take the girl part out and be guides mixed sex like scouts did what is with all the handwringing nonsense yes they will still need to have sex segregation for tents but with (allegedly) so many trans children they should be able to have their own tents? Trans girls in one trans boys in the other?

Why so much fucking ANGST

Yes. You're missing that single sex spaces is the point.

There's absolutely no interest in becoming involved in a mixed sex group - where's the affirmation in that...?

TheGreenTeddy · 04/03/2026 18:55

PersephoneSmith · 04/03/2026 18:21

I responded to their survey, to tell them what a stupid fucking idea it was, so 3000 responses doesn’t mean they all agreed.
Plus I had managed to get on their mailing list by emailing them a few times to tell them what knobheads they are.

Ditto. I’d be curious to know what % agreed of those 3000.

Boys with a gender identity have never had any business in Girl Guides. It’s all about crossing boundaries - enormous safeguarding red flag. Why not join scouts, they can hold their gender identity there perfectly fine… but it’s about breaking down girls (in this case - women’s too in others), places, their safety, their dignity.

ConstanzeMozart · 04/03/2026 18:53

lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 17:46

I used the C word (with an L rather than an N) in regards to the whole ideology.

Some one must have reported it otherwise it wouldn't have been deleted.

You can't use the word cult?
Genuinely didn't know that.
<<waits for deletion>>

Theunamedcat · 04/03/2026 18:48

Am I missing something? Just take the girl part out and be guides mixed sex like scouts did what is with all the handwringing nonsense yes they will still need to have sex segregation for tents but with (allegedly) so many trans children they should be able to have their own tents? Trans girls in one trans boys in the other?

Why so much fucking ANGST

Toseland · 04/03/2026 18:44

I hope it's not done using Guide's time, money or facilities.

ChipDaleRescueRangers · 04/03/2026 18:43

I would never let me daughter join Brownies and Guides and it just gets worse and worse. So male children are now actually being prioritised over females if they are spending this amount of time and money on a "taskforce".

Greyskybluesky · 04/03/2026 18:43

lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 18:40

I obviously did, which thread is that on?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5496222-yet-more-reddit-censorship-womens-lib-sub-banned?reply=150778571

lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 18:40

Greyskybluesky · 04/03/2026 18:39

Then you missed an absolute gem recently about reporting "transphobia" on reddit!

I obviously did, which thread is that on?

Greyskybluesky · 04/03/2026 18:39

lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 18:36

I haven't seen Chris for ages!

Then you missed an absolute gem recently about reporting "transphobia" on reddit!

lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 18:36

Greyskybluesky · 04/03/2026 18:34

Hi Chris! 👋

I haven't seen Chris for ages!

Greyskybluesky · 04/03/2026 18:34

lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 17:46

I used the C word (with an L rather than an N) in regards to the whole ideology.

Some one must have reported it otherwise it wouldn't have been deleted.

Hi Chris! 👋

PersephoneSmith · 04/03/2026 18:21

I responded to their survey, to tell them what a stupid fucking idea it was, so 3000 responses doesn’t mean they all agreed.
Plus I had managed to get on their mailing list by emailing them a few times to tell them what knobheads they are.

VamboRools · 04/03/2026 18:15

Spending the money that they've taken from the girls' subs to find ways they can bypass both the SC judgement, and their stated charity aims.

TheKeatingFive · 04/03/2026 18:14

W*nkers

Probably literally

MrsJamin · 04/03/2026 18:09

It's so sad that today's girls cannot be prioritised, they must still have to think about the needs of a tiny minority of males above their own needs. 😞

SinnerBoy · 04/03/2026 18:01

Including people with lived experience? Hmm. Surely everyone alive has lived experience? What a pile.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 04/03/2026 17:58

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lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 17:46

ConstanzeMozart · 04/03/2026 17:31

Oh goodness me, deleted for saying that this reminds me of the WI!
Really?!? Wow.
Did MN give a justification?

I used the C word (with an L rather than an N) in regards to the whole ideology.

Some one must have reported it otherwise it wouldn't have been deleted.

ConstanzeMozart · 04/03/2026 17:31

lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 16:06

Oh goodness me, deleted for saying that this reminds me of the WI!

Will Brownie's/ Guides have to have their promise changed to swear allegiance to the rainbow flag/ their trans sisters? And will there be non member events where trans identified boys will be included?

It's such a shame that girls are being told that they still must centre these boys.

Oh goodness me, deleted for saying that this reminds me of the WI!
Really?!? Wow.
Did MN give a justification?

Cassandrasuncapturedcastle · 04/03/2026 17:13

averylongtimeago · 04/03/2026 12:09

Latest on their campaign to include males. Trying to get round the law and their own charitable aims. Girls just aren’t important enough on their own!
From their latest FB post-

“How we’re exploring future opportunities for trans girls and trans women to connect with and be supported by Girlguiding ⬇️

In December last year, our equality and diversity policy changed following the Supreme Court’s decision on sex and gender. Since then, we’ve been making steady progress with the taskforce to explore how trans girls and trans women can connect with and be supported by Girlguiding in the future. Over 3,000 of you responded to our taskforce.

The taskforce is a community of around 500 people with a common interest, who come together to share information, generate ideas and explore different ways of offering support. A big part of the taskforce is our panel of 16 people, including people with lived experience, senior volunteers, members, young people, country and region staff and volunteers, parents and carers and subject matter experts.

The taskforce as a whole is considering over 100 ideas which have been grouped into themes, and the theme being discussed right now is ‘showing support for trans girls, trans women and the trans+ community’. Ideas in this theme include holding events, creating activities and campaigns.

We’ll keep you updated on the progress of the taskforce on social media and our website. See here for more information: https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/information-for-volunteers/updates-for-our-members/taskforce-updates/.

I don't know much about girl guides - how many members are there overall? I'd be interested to see the numbers they quote - 3000 responded to the survey, task force of 500 and panel of 16 - in context of the membership numbers as a whole and whether these numbers are reflective of the proportion of people in the general population who have "trans children" or are active supporters of gender ideology.

Far more people don't agree with or support gender ideology in general, but although the people who are true believers and activists for gender ideology are small they're also loud and influential unfortunately. Do PPs think this is reflected in girl guiding, or is there a disproportionately larger number of gender ideologues involved in the organisation?

These activists are of course helped by the Be Kind brigade who are often just not very aware and think they're supporting a righteous cause and vulnerable children. So that might bump up their numbers.

borntobequiet · 04/03/2026 16:58

lifeturnsonadime · 04/03/2026 16:06

Oh goodness me, deleted for saying that this reminds me of the WI!

Will Brownie's/ Guides have to have their promise changed to swear allegiance to the rainbow flag/ their trans sisters? And will there be non member events where trans identified boys will be included?

It's such a shame that girls are being told that they still must centre these boys.

Weird. Don’t they have the same legal advisors?

It’s bad enough with adult males inveigling themselves into the WI, 100 times worse pulling the same stunt with an organisation set up for female children.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 04/03/2026 16:43

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