“Heated Rivalry” author Rachel Reid on J. K. Rowling - “the bar is pretty high in how evil you have to be,” “ I’m extremely the opposite of everything she believes”

No Aisha.

We have the data we need. We can look at the female prisoner rate for sex offences and calculate the proportion of female prisoners that equates to OR the % of the female population that equates to. Then we can use the same method for the male people with transgender identities using census data where male people with transgender identities were reported.

That is all that should need to be done. If the % is higher than that for the female population, there is the answer. This has been done. Criminologist experts have done the work already.

As it is, those numbers are somewhat irrelevant because it is not just for safety that male people are excluded from female single sex provisions. There is the need for privacy and dignity as well.

Plus we also have the studies that show that male people have physical advantages over female people even after testosterone has been reduced. So, because no publicly accessible single sex provision can have case by case instant risk assessment of any male above about 8 years old accessing that provision, all male people are excluded.

You seem to be confusing ‘trans people’ and men.

I don’t know how many times it needs to be repeated but the problem is men.

And you can't map groups neatly on to each other as you think. Younger, poorer, straight men offend at substantially higher rates than older wealthier gay men. In fact gay men offend at lower rates than gay women.

It does often come back to this. ‘Don’t be mean to the men’.

Actually, this is pretty much equating JK Rowling’s tweets with the reports and the government decisions that led to the Iraq war.

Gosh… isn’t that wildly hypocritical?

We are not talking about terrorism accusations. We are talking about male sex crimes and violence.

Your mention of terrorism is using a catastrophising cognitive distortion to try to support your point.

So, can women discuss male sex crimes and violence without being demonised for making male people look bad?

Whatever next? 😂

So you have nothing.

You have created a special group of male people and treated them as different based on nothing.

You cannot even admit that the same under reporting is just as likely across all groups. You just regurgitated someone’s very prejudiced interpretation of JK Rowling’s tweets without critical thought and you declared that she should adhere to your personally set very high standard of adding a disclaimer about her statements that no news outlet does to demonise her.

Really, you have nothing to support your claim but emotional reasoning. Ok. Great to know.

Your point is acruelly irrelevant for making safeguarding policies that exclude all male people above the age of about 8 yrs old from female single sex provisions. That exclusion is needed for privacy as well as safety.

However, if the only reason for exclusion was safety, the only risk that needs to be established is whether a group of male people commit sex and or violent crimes at the same rate or lower than female people. That is not the case. The conviction rates for female people is far lower than for male people with transgender identities.

Also, your argument about low reporting rates applies to BOTH sex categories for sex and violent crimes. Your attempt to make a case that somehow conviction rates are not representative is not relevant because the same can be said about female crimes as well.

There will never be perfect reporting of those crimes, therefore we use the information that we do have. It is a failure of safeguarding to assume that a group of male people do not carry the same risk of committing sex and violent crimes as the general population.

So what would the reason for rape by men to be underreported and rape by trans women not to be underreported? Rape victims are transphobes?

Male violence is a problem. Agreed. And trans women are male.

Ah, so you agree that transwomen using women's bathrooms without disclosing their true sex is lying (by omission)to women and serves to decieve and unconsentually use them for 'gender validation', and that this is morally and 'objectively'* wrong? Or is that logic only okay when you use it? Don't bother answering, I already know your response. Denial, denial, denial is the pattern amongst you lot.

*(a word you TRAs do not know the meaning of, alongside the term 'bigotry')

According to Government figures, as of February 2024 more than 70 per cent of transgender prisoners in British jails were serving sentences for sex offences and violent crimes.

At least 181 of the 244 transgender inmates, more than 74 per cent, were in jail for crimes including rape, forcing under-age children into having sex, grievous bodily harm and robbery.

And more figures:

Comparisons of official MOJ statistics from March / April 2019:

76 sex offenders out of 129 transwomen = 58.9%

125 sex offenders out of 3812 women in prison = 3.3%

13234 sex offenders out of 78781 men in prison =16.8%

I never said any of that. I said we do know that male violence is a larger problem because of underreporting & that we have ways of confirming its even a much larger problem than incarceration reflects. As such I'm quite comfortable with people bringing attention to this fact. My problem is the inaccurate attempt to map this on groups within the group.

I have to go to work now.

So, YOU don’t know. Therefore everyone else is wrong and everyone else should STFU about discussing male sexual abuse and violence because it might, what, make male people look bad in general?

Or do you think that most other people have the understanding that there are ‘some’ male people in the world who will sexually abuse and be violent towards women and that they are the exception. Yet even so. ALL male people above about 8 years old should be excluded from female single sex provisions not just based on their risk to commit such crimes but for the needs of those female people using those provisions?

You don't seem to understand how statistics work. A comparison group needs to be verified so just because trans crimes might be higher doesn't mean its at the same or higher rate that male violence.

The fact is, we don't know.

Not at all. We have other methods like surveys that indicate whether crimes are being underreported & male violence clearly is.

So to you, any reporting of male sexual abuse and violence is treating those crimes as the norm and not the exception?

So no media outlet or person should discuss male sexual abuse and violence ?

Which means 'trans' crimes are under-reported too. Which makes their tally even worse!

I don't know either way is the point.

Might be but you have no numbers of which to draw any conclusions. And also given the trans woman population is so small its impossible to draw any meaningful statistical conclusions.

The same way that trans studies are discredited for being too small due to population their size goes for everything else.

Why?

Why do you expect that many rapes from any male person is not reported? Do you believe that people are more likely to report male people who have transgender identities? Please show evidence of this.

That is a weak and flimsy bs excuse. Males commit 98% of sexual offences. And males who identify as trans commit sexual offences 5 times higher. You just don't like that you have no actual solid argument.

Facts are uncomfortable. Especially after years when the media colluded in pretending these men's crimes were committed by women, the judiciary insisted that all the trans paedophiles, murderers and sex offenders MUST be called she and the police registered all these male crimes from TIMs as belonging to women.

Suddenly those who've bullied society for so long into accepting these lies are faced with facts and reality. Women won't be bullied into silence any more. The press have upped their game and started to report these crimes more accurately.

The game is up. #nodebate is over. Time to start facing up to the harm that's been done to society and especially to vulnerable children & young people.

I apply that standard to everyone as many do so your point is irrelevant.

By that reasoning, if rapes are vastly underreported, the number of rapes by trans women will also be much higher.

Again, show the examples of news outlets making the disclaimers you are demanding of women who are commenting on sexual violence and abuse.