Puberty Blocker Trial Paused

Brilliant! I needed this laugh today, thank you!

One of the many awful things about gender identity beliefs and trans activism is their total humour bypass. So much self-righteousness and the amount of self policing needed to maintain the belief system does not lead to good comedy.

"Eventually, enough of the other scientists, as well as lots of ordinary people (led by women's groups, gay rights groups and more) questioned the BioAlchemists about what they were doing. The turning point came when the government announced that it wanted to launch a new national experiment on a group of children to prove once and for all if BioAlchemy worked and poly-sex was real.

When the public understood that this meant experimenting on children's brains, weakening their bones so that they broke easily and stopping them from ever having families of their own in the future.... they stood up and said 'No!' They were joined by the women's groups and gay rights groups who had been shouting 'No!' for years, but were hidden from view by the poly-sexers in the media. Now all of their voices could be heard, shouting 'No!' together.

And that was the beginning of the end."

BioAlchemy seems to be in its dying throes. I guess its arc of relevance as "science" has probably been faster than the original lead/gold alchemy because information sharing is so much faster now than it was back then. Quick to rise, quick to fall - by comparison.

I wonder when secondary school children will be learning about it in history...

"Today we're going to look at how poly-sex theory and BioAlchemy led thousands of children and young adults to believe that chopping off body parts was healthcare. Does any know what 'poly-sex' could mean?"

"Does it mean lots of sex, miss?"

"Not quite! Poly means 'many' and
'sex' in this context means male or female. Strange as it may sound to us, people who believed in 'poly-sex theory' thought that there were many different sexes - they called them gender identities and believed that you could be a little bit male, a little bit female or something else entirely..

There were even scientists who said this was true. Some of those scientists chopped off people's body parts, or even sewed new ones onto their patients. The BioAlchemists, as they became known, convinced thousands and thousands of people that they could change their sex from the inside as well, using powerful medication that their patients would need for life. The pharmaceutical companies - the companies that made lots of money from the sale of the medicines - agreed with the scientists"....

Simples. You are all the wrong kind of biologists.

Indeed. I assume that somewhere in the decision-making process are some well placed “Biologists [who] now think there is a larger spectrum than just binary female and male.”

I'm a biologist and I bloody don't believe there is a larger spectrum than binary female and male, and neither does dp who is also a biologist, and I just checked with my colleague who I share an office with, she too thinks that's bollocks. That's three of us already.

It reminds me of the medieval alchemists who tried for centuries to turn lead into gold, and failed miserably.

Please don't say we've now got to put up with BioAlchemist failing miserably for centuries to turn men into women. 😂

Indeed. I assume that somewhere in the decision-making process are some well placed “Biologists [who] now think there is a larger spectrum than just binary female and male.”

It's the medical equivalent of being a flat-earther. I'm not sure what the term should be, maybe poly-sexer. And what they believe in is then logically poly-sex theory.

It's effectively the equivalent of a bunch of flat-earthers taking charge of international air traffic control.

How did this trial ever get approval?

That's refreshing to read, thank you, Witty

This is excellent and a very clear explanation of what's going on in the scientific world (mind-blowing as it is)

"In contradiction of evolutionary history and millennia of human observations, highly-esteemed scientific periodicals are running articles undermining the observable reality of biological sex."

And they quote some examples, here's one-
“Biologists now think there is a larger spectrum than just binary female and male.” Scientific American, Oct 22 2018

Sorry about the sexes, I got confused! Blast this gender mixed-up-language business.

So at least Sarah's DC isn't a girl on testosterone, which is one good thing. It's unhealthy for men to take oestrogen etc but not as bad.

To be clear, "Sarah" is talking about a male child. A gay male child who is now described as a "straight" "woman".

For reference, that is what Iran does to gay men too. Mutilates their healthy bodies to convert them into "straight" "women" because it is not acceptable to be a gay man.

I disagree with your first sentence.

This is an interesting, and important, development
https://projectnettie.wordpress.com

It is not fair to blame Sarah. There is no way to predict upfront which kids will or wont change their minds during or shortly after puberty if they're not medicated. No matter how certain they are that they wont change their minds, most do. People can say "this kid didn't grow out of it" but that's hindsight. It's no help upfront.

The Tavistock GIDS found (eventually, and only after the High Court demanded to know) that giving puberty blockers changed the trajectory. Nearly all the kids who were given puberty blockers all continued to cross-sex hormones, instead of more than half desisting. If the clinic had been monitoring outcomes they would have known early on of the risk that blocking Sarah's DD's puberty might be positively leading her onto testosterone. Instead the clinic blindly went ahead and left DD and Sarah to live with the health consequences of long-term testosterone use.

For the kids who've already decided they want blockers and cross-sex hormones, refusing them now is a real bummer. They don't want to be stopped, they will feel they have missed out, and yes they probably will suffer. The Tavistock created this situation through their own terrible lack of oversight and their negligent refusal to track outcomes. And the arrogant belief of some staff, contradicted by evidence, that they could tell who would benefit from medication.

As the saying goes, a "trans child" is like a vegan cat - everyone knows who's really making the decision.

The vast majority of kids who experience distress related to their sexed bodies grow out of it as their brains naturally mature through puberty & adolescence. You chose to deny your child access to that natural process of maturation.

Lots going on today. Hard to catch up.

SEEN journalism have summed it up well. This combined with the current exposes of other people imvolved is showing how ideologically driven Newman and the others have to be to have not done the same research into the others. Did they really think no one else would? It really has backfired on them.

i have watched a couple of interviews with Michael. I especially enjoyed his interview with Mr Menno…highly recommended.

His experiences with the gender services when he decided to desist were awful. Drs basically telling him 🤷‍♀️ to every query he raised. How the fuck can medical staff claim that they are gaining informed consent when they themselves are unable to explain the potential consequences of stopping treatment?

Just wanted to post this somewhere, it wasxlinked at the bottom of the article posted on the new thread about the cancelled poet. A detransitioner whose story I don't recollect reading about before

Trans news: Scotland detransitioner shares story after spending eight years living as a woman https://share.google/LiuAnJMHLEiIEBQu1

It mentions something recommended by Cass that had completely slipped my mind. Is anyone aware of anything being done to set up services for detransitioners? Perhaps it could be something they could crack on with while the trial is paused, before they risk creating more of them.

Excellent from Akua Reindorf

If we are looking at the outcome for a study on this it would be that you successfully changed the appearance of your secondary organs with complication and have reconciled your discomfort with the sex of your body as a result and are happy.

And that prevention of puberty has no long term adverse affect on health, aside from infertility, and that these children do not regret their decision to be sterilised in later life.

They're asked if they'll be willing avtrial to oversee administering drugs to children to delay their puberty so the children can decide if they want to spend the rest of their lives pretending they've changed sex.

It's not just delayed puberty.

It's part of a pathway that permanently prevents puberty for cosmetic reasons.

The biggest issue is that the neutral point IS that you can't change sex. It's an experiment to stop the functional of primary sexual organs and to stop the development of secondary sexual organs so that you may be able to later take drugs or have surgery to imitation the secondary sexual organs. At no point do you change sex.

This is why the language absolutely matters because the phrase 'sex change' is wholly misleading.

Ironically sentiments about being born in 'the wrong body' don't capture the point that you can't change that body but do actually acknowledge it.

If we are looking at the outcome for a study on this it would be that you successfully changed the appearance of your secondary organs with complication and have reconciled your discomfort with the sex of your body as a result and are happy.

I distance on pronouns and persistently pushing the idea you have changed sex is showing an unhealthy response to treatment. It's demonstrating there has been no reconciliation and the person is continuing to escalate. It shows a state of denial.

This is actually all really important. You can't ever be mentally resolved if you aren't at peace with your body and that's enough. It should not be relying on outside interactions and affirmation at all cost.

And there is lies the bias of the very premise that a small number of people are better changing sex.

Cos sex is not gender. Everyone knows this. Even those transgender. Their identity as being transgender even admits this.

Tests not rests!

And in another post, when test results confirmed the Algerian Olympic boxer <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/DTHrZ/www.thetimes.com/sport/boxing/article/imane-khelif-boxing-gender-issue-trans-paris-olympics-7dfzgjbr3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Imane Khelif was a woman

What rests were these? Scrutiny of a passport?

Thanks for the link, it was very informative.

The Alphabetty Mafia strikes again, the prof, who wasn't involved in the trial but knows that sex is immutable, gets kicked into touch, and the genderwanging grifter, who's promoting this batshitery, who is involved in the decision making on the trail, gets he's way cleared and promoted. 🤬

I hope Wings and the others pluck out this corruption by it's roots, and the whole bloody lot of them get sacked. 👊