Rhode Island - Another crossdressing male mass shooter

As far as I can tell this man had had "bottom surgery" so presumably would qualify as a "woman" even to more circumspect trans allies who have concepts of real and not real "transpeople". Yet I can see no references to the shooter being a woman anywhere, in total contrast to Tumbler Ridge.

I have done a quick trawl. US sites are clearly saying "gunman" and "father" and referring to him as he. BBC News US front page doesn't mention the incident at all right now. Guardian: likewise nothing. Sky News: "the suspect", no pronoun. The Times: "gunman". Canadian media: "the shooter" or "the suspect", no pronoun.

Oh my god, Bertie. I'm so fuckin sorry.

The T has been the cuckoo in the nest of LGB organisations. I watched it in a LGB organisation i worked at, staffing a DV Helpline. Gradually all the new staff were TRAs, as the older staff left, probably because they were made to feel they didn't properly understand the "importance" of pronouns and the necessity of "trans" camps and holidays for children . All conversations, training and publicity gradually switched from sexuality to gender. more money was spent advocating free wigs and makeup for sex offending men in prison than paying Helpline staff. Of course i had to leave,regarded as old fashioned, bigoted and ignorant because i wasn't happy with all these changes. The final straw was a volunteer male who gradually adopted a feminine costume, insisting he was now she, who followed me into the women's toilets when everyone else had left the building at the end of a weekend shift, and who sat in the next cubicle listening to me peeing - whatever he was doing (!) was nothing to do with him just wanting to pee. It was very intimidating, so i left. I knew better than to expect anyone in the organisation to support me. A real woman. Who had wanted to help lesbians, gay men and bisexual people who were being abused. The cuckoo doesn't just take over the nest it has stolen, it kicks out the birds who build it and kills their chicks.

Coercion and non consensuality seem the common theme across most fetish/paraphilias.

Predators will seek maximum opportunity to exploit the most vulnerable.

Most predators are men.
Most vulnerable are women (and/or children).

If the former can identify as the latter - maximum access and opportunity.

Seems fairly logical.

The only barrier really is social taboo - fetishists have sexualised that in humiliation and sissification kink, while simultaneously eroding the taboo.

I would not take a bet on shitposting as being anyway truthful 💅

There certainly seems to be a high crossover rate between men who are violent and sexually abusive/deviant and the willingness to start cross sex identifying: wearing make-up and women's clothing etc.

Ah! Thank you. I feel like I read that there was something about post-surgery too, but unless someone can find the evidence for that I’m happy to be corrected.

Iirc that finding in relation to chemical castration of sex offenders.

There is some suggestion that if they already have a propensity toward violence they become more violent after the surgery, using objects to rape in place of the appendage they’ve had removed.

I don’t have the relevant data/articles to hand, but another reader might.

It certainly proves that men who have had surgery are not 'completely harmless', as is often claimed.

Can you imagine how this one would have reacted if a woman had objected to him being in a women only space? And yet if women keep their heads down and don't complain about these men that's meant to be a sign that everything's fine, right?

I was wondering why this particular fetish? Why so many men seem to have it.

But then I realised, it's probably not just this particular one. It's that this particular one now has the blanket of legitimacy to it and can be performed in public.

With a massive side order of virtue points, bullying and intimidation. I mean, it's like the best fetish evah.

When I saw this late last night it was immediately noticeable that the media had decided this one was a man in a skirt. They should be forced to justify how they decide when someone is a 'woman' and when just a bloke in lipstick. It seems based on how much they think they can get away with implying the shooter was driven to it by nasty right-wingers and gender critical feminists.

It would be highly inappropriate over the tragedy, but you do feel like posting the "Not Another One" meme, just because it happens now with such regularity despite the constant "trans people are victims" narrative.

That was his response to this post:

https://x.com/Melchizedek1972/status/1773317346418930074?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1773324660819567094%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=

Yes, this is true.

You see it on here, albeit watered down. If people on here could say what they actually wanted to say to some of our ploppers, it would take much less time for the mask to go, and the raging insults to start.

That's a direct result of the 10 year propaganda making places like Mumsnet HQ still think 'civil discourse' is anywhere near the goal of TRAs.

I've mentioned before about Gendertrender, a site run by a woman who had no such qualms.

And their version of a plopper would get instant, sweary, and extremely short shrift from her.

The resultant mask flinging was spectacular, and the rage visible from space. As were the threats. They were vitriolic. Until she just banned them.

this is a pattern that is being repeated everywhere.

It is no accident that the T jumped into LGB organisations pushing the idea the T is a gay man.

But TRA sold the acceptance without exception. They cant then whine when men who see the opening take the opening.

In an era when women had and have to still adopt power suits in business yet these men (with no GD etc) get to throw on a "dress" and bully people into submission.

Whats not to like from their side.

Absolutely. The piggybacking on the LGB was very deliberate, and well timed.

Yes, and also the forced teaming, if that's the right phrase, with the activists working for an end to discrimination against lesbians, gay men and bisexual people. No LGB without the T - why not? What have they got in common?

Once again, how could people not notice what was happening? We had the example in the 1970s and 80s of the paedophiles trying to worm their way into gay rights organisations and the forerunner of Liberty. Some people back then were so determined to get rid of all boundaries and taboos that they were totally unable to see how harmful it would have been to legitimise the sexual abuse of children. That's, of course, in addition to the people who actively wanted easier opportunities to abuse the vulnerable. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378

I read on x that his son was playing on the rink. Poor sod.

He had also undergone surgery to have a hole in his groin which creates a poor facsimile of female genitals, so I also wonder what makes him "not trans." Hmmm, remind me again, isn't it bigoted, transphobic, TEFF logic and "licherally violence" to deny a trans persons identity?🤔

https://x.com/Tgirlcuda/status/1773324660819567094?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1773324660819567094%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=

He's only being referred to as male this time because it's America, whereas the last one was Canadian which is completely captured. I'll wait for the reports in the BBC and Guardian and weep

I note the canadian police are investigating the firearms used.

From the report it suggests 3 not 2 may have been involved
One was altered which I will guess was to add trigger speed but more likely more rounds or the barrel cut.
Another was an illegal one as the police are saying they have no history.

Thank you!

'why were people so credulous? Why was there so little critical thinking applied?'

Narrative. Thought terminating cliches. 'No debate'. Proactive monstering of anyone who questioned the narratives ('probably racist'). Media and the arts pushing relentless messages about holy vulnerable marginalised people. Butterfly, my name is jazz, Desmond is Amazing (a stripping child?!). The Drag division of the Sex-industrial Complex. Diversion, manipulation, lobbying.

Lying, basically.