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Rhode Island - Another crossdressing male mass shooter

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fromorbit · 17/02/2026 04:52

Mourn the victims.

Robert K. Dorgan ("Roberta Esposito") killed two people and critically injured three others.

Rhode Island hockey shooter ID’d as transgender father Robert Dorgan
The suspected shooter sat near the back of the stands on the home team’s side during the game before he moved to the front and opened fire at four family members and one family friend, the outlet reported.
The student’s mother and sibling were among the dead, multiple sources told the outlet. The mother of Dorgan’s child died inside Lynch Arena, while the sibling died at the hospital, according to the sources.

https://nypost.com/2026/02/16/us-news/robert-dorgan-idd-as-rhode-island-hockey-shooter/

He was active on social media threatening violence and attacking women who knew biology.

More details on the background

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15565931/Hockey-shooting-Rhode-Island-Robert-Dorgan-transgender.html

A lot of the coverage seems to be calling him a guy this time.

Stop this madness!

Obviously one must suspect Dorgan was inspired by the Tumbler ridge killer these type of evil men imitate each other.

How long are we going to let this happen?

Rhode Island hockey shooter ID’d as transgender father Robert Dorgan

Pawtucket Police Chief Tina Goncalves said that Dorgan, 56, also uses the alias Roberta Esposito.

https://nypost.com/2026/02/16/us-news/robert-dorgan-idd-as-rhode-island-hockey-shooter/

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MusicWasMyFirstLove · 18/02/2026 17:30

Datun · 18/02/2026 13:23

Yeah, call me a cynic but I'm not convinced.

It's entirely possible, of course. It doesn't stop these men being full of rage.

But it's the whole bodybuilding thing that's making me wonder. Would a person that into gym work reduce their testosterone by removing its source? Although I note he was saying he takes testosterone.

So who knows

These men are porn addicts.

They develop a fixation on the women in porn movies and end up believing that these women are having a better time than the men in the movies.

They fantasize about being the woman rather than the man because they are also masochists.
Masochists "get off" on humiliation.
They believe that being a woman is a humiliation.
Hence the attraction.
They are out and out misogynists.

The longer the addiction is left untreated the more likely they are to end up getting a smelly ersatz vagina (i.e. a hairy inverted penis is not self-cleansing and requires multiple daily dilation with a dildo to prevent the wound from healing.. lovely jubbly!) Afterwards, (too late) they realise that they have no libido (because their testicles were removed) so they end up taking synthetic testosterone to get back some "feeling" downstairs...

The old joke:

"What's the difference between a transvestite and a transsexual?"
Answer:
"About 5 years"

is becoming truer and truer as time goes on.

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 14:24

Thanks everyone. Flowers

ArabellaScott · 18/02/2026 14:23

nicepotoftea · 18/02/2026 10:27

Maybe tolerance is a better word? I'm really talking about people who would previously have been described as 'marching to the beat of their own drum', and I think it's good to understand this because many young people are drawn to 'inclusivity' because they genuinely are 'kind'. I don't think that is bad.

So acceptance of girls who do not conform to gender norms, but as they really are - girls, not boys.

That contrasts with e.g. co-opting other people into a fetish or forcing people to participate in a fantasy.

Sure.

I think 'being who I really am' has achieved 'live laugh love' status as a platitude.

likelysuspect · 18/02/2026 14:17

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 13:19

Dr Thomas Bowdler published an expurgated version of Shakespeare by taking out anything (he considered) rude. About 1800 or so. Very much foreshadowed Victorian prudery. Refers to censorship.

I like to think I know a lot of stuff but I did not know this. Thanks for that

MarjorieWestriding · 18/02/2026 14:17

@Helleofabore if you have the same cold as we've just had, one day of concentrated Hell followed by getting better, then it really does mess with your head. On the intense day I was barely capable of reading a recipe let alone actual thinking.

Hope you feel better soon!

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 14:10

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 14:00

Ahh.

Thank you. That is how I initially read it but then I thought about it and could thought it could be applied to my comment rather than what the media has been doing.

I do have a head cold so am fuzzy thinking today.

Yes, I think we're very much on the same page!

Get well soon ☕

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 14:06

UtopiaPlanitia · 18/02/2026 14:01

I think the mention of Dr Bowdler was made to point out that some areas of the press are being unusually prim in their writing about these men in order to stop 'scandalous' information being published and therefore imputations being made by the public about trans-identifying men. These journalists seem to want to assist in maintaining the most victimised/marginalised population image that has been claimed for years.

Thanks UP. I admit I need help today. As I said, I was genuinely confused by who was Bowdler in the reference. But now I am
clear and all good.

UtopiaPlanitia · 18/02/2026 14:01

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 13:35

So, the comment was directed at me? Because I expressed confusion caused by the use of them / their in media when the media outlets had confirmation that the shooter was male? I am just checking again what the relevance is.

Edited

I think the mention of Dr Bowdler was made to point out that some areas of the press are being unusually prim in their writing about these men in order to stop 'scandalous' information being published and therefore imputations being made by the public about trans-identifying men. These journalists seem to want to assist in maintaining the most victimised/marginalised population image that has been claimed for years.

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 14:00

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 13:51

I think we are at cross purposes. I wasn't commenting on anything you said at all, more on the context of the discussion ie about media sources obfuscating truth to serve some moralistic agenda. I was reminded of how Shakespeare's language was hallowed out for the sake of an academic with an agenda. What is being printed seems like Bowdlerisation to me. I wasn't being particular, I was being general.

I hope this makes sense. If not , all I can say is I've done my best!

Ahh.

Thank you. That is how I initially read it but then I thought about it and could thought it could be applied to my comment rather than what the media has been doing.

I do have a head cold so am fuzzy thinking today.

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 13:51

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 13:35

So, the comment was directed at me? Because I expressed confusion caused by the use of them / their in media when the media outlets had confirmation that the shooter was male? I am just checking again what the relevance is.

Edited

I think we are at cross purposes. I wasn't commenting on anything you said at all, more on the context of the discussion ie about media sources obfuscating truth to serve some moralistic agenda. I was reminded of how Shakespeare's language was hallowed out for the sake of an academic with an agenda. What is being printed seems like Bowdlerisation to me. I wasn't being particular, I was being general.

I hope this makes sense. If not , all I can say is I've done my best!

Datun · 18/02/2026 13:36

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 13:27

Maybe he kept his testes? Hate to think, regardless!

Well you've also got those men who keep their penis and testicles, and have an additional cavity created which they claim is a vagina.

A whole smorgasbord of genitalia, apparently.

How anyone could ever, possibly, in a million, zillion years think this issue isn't entirely down to sex is beyond me

nicepotoftea · 18/02/2026 13:35

Datun · 18/02/2026 13:23

Yeah, call me a cynic but I'm not convinced.

It's entirely possible, of course. It doesn't stop these men being full of rage.

But it's the whole bodybuilding thing that's making me wonder. Would a person that into gym work reduce their testosterone by removing its source? Although I note he was saying he takes testosterone.

So who knows

I did wonder about that.

I don't really want to go looking for the tweet (and even if I found it there is no guarantee that it is truthful) but from memory it referred to the size of a hole.

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 13:35

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 13:29

No worries, it's the prim correction of pronouns by the virtue signallers that gets on my wick !

So, the comment was directed at me? Because I expressed confusion caused by the use of them / their in media when the media outlets had confirmation that the shooter was male? I am just checking again what the relevance is.

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 13:29

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 13:26

Yes. I know who he was. I don't understand the relevance to the statement, sorry. I must be feeling thick headed today.

No worries, it's the prim correction of pronouns by the virtue signallers that gets on my wick !

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 13:27

Datun · 18/02/2026 13:23

Yeah, call me a cynic but I'm not convinced.

It's entirely possible, of course. It doesn't stop these men being full of rage.

But it's the whole bodybuilding thing that's making me wonder. Would a person that into gym work reduce their testosterone by removing its source? Although I note he was saying he takes testosterone.

So who knows

Maybe he kept his testes? Hate to think, regardless!

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 13:26

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 13:19

Dr Thomas Bowdler published an expurgated version of Shakespeare by taking out anything (he considered) rude. About 1800 or so. Very much foreshadowed Victorian prudery. Refers to censorship.

Yes. I know who he was. I don't understand the relevance to the statement, sorry. I must be feeling thick headed today.

Datun · 18/02/2026 13:23

nicepotoftea · 18/02/2026 09:36

I think there is a post on X where he talks about his bottom surgery and he also talked about how surgery was funded.

Yeah, call me a cynic but I'm not convinced.

It's entirely possible, of course. It doesn't stop these men being full of rage.

But it's the whole bodybuilding thing that's making me wonder. Would a person that into gym work reduce their testosterone by removing its source? Although I note he was saying he takes testosterone.

So who knows

nauticant · 18/02/2026 13:21

And gave us the verb bowdlerise.

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 13:19

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 13:01

Maybe you could explain this please ?

Dr Thomas Bowdler published an expurgated version of Shakespeare by taking out anything (he considered) rude. About 1800 or so. Very much foreshadowed Victorian prudery. Refers to censorship.

Helleofabore · 18/02/2026 13:01

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 12:31

Dr Bowdler lives!

Maybe you could explain this please ?

likelysuspect · 18/02/2026 12:44

nicepotoftea · 18/02/2026 10:27

Maybe tolerance is a better word? I'm really talking about people who would previously have been described as 'marching to the beat of their own drum', and I think it's good to understand this because many young people are drawn to 'inclusivity' because they genuinely are 'kind'. I don't think that is bad.

So acceptance of girls who do not conform to gender norms, but as they really are - girls, not boys.

That contrasts with e.g. co-opting other people into a fetish or forcing people to participate in a fantasy.

Women (and girls) have not 'conformed' to sex norms ( I wont use the word gender) for nearly 100 years and further back

When I was growing up an androgynous look (as one example) was everywhere, for males and females, wear what you want, do what you want, embark on what career you want.

Its only in the last 15 years or so that girls apparently are seen as odd or needing to 'be a boy' if they dont conform to sex stereotypes. This is something thats been created in order to support the ideology, not the other way round.

KnottyAuty · 18/02/2026 12:43

TeaAndStrumpets · 18/02/2026 08:47

Ms Goncalves said at least three bystanders were able to contain Dorgan, who reached for a second gun and shot themselves.

This jumped out at me from Sky News. They are evidently trying hard not to use himself/ herself, and have ended up implying he was somehow plural.

At first glance I thought the bystanders had reached for the gun and shot themselves 🙄

KnottyAuty · 18/02/2026 12:40

UtopiaPlanitia · 18/02/2026 02:03

Whaaaat?!?! Urgh

Rhode Island - Another crossdressing male mass shooter
likelysuspect · 18/02/2026 12:37

nicepotoftea · 18/02/2026 10:11

I think 'accepting people for who they are while holding them to ethical standards' is good.

The problem here is forced acceptance of people for what they are not while also abandoning ethical standards..

Yes whose ethical standards though, because dare we stand on the apparent 'wrong side' of those standards and this is what you have now. We apparently are on the wrong side.

Its not just small businesses, its big organisations like thr NHS, its also governments like Canada and global governing bodies like the EU parliament.

likelysuspect · 18/02/2026 12:34

nicepotoftea · 18/02/2026 09:24

From the reporting, certainly not by her family, although that didn't stop them paying the cost for his behaviour.

But society in general certainly lacks the lens to understand his sexualised, 'woman face' as abusive or offensive.

Woman face

This cannot be said enough, this needs repeating over and over and needs to be just as inapprorpriate as black face now is.