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So Doctor “ Beth “ Upton is off to pastures new , leaving a large ongoing bill for NHS Fife

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RhannionKPSS · 15/02/2026 10:30

Dr Upton is off to Australia it seems, after creating a toxic situation for women in NHS Fife, wonder if Dr Upton is going to be working in “ Gender Services “ down under ?

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AnSolas · 15/02/2026 11:48

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:43

He assaulted a female patient? How come he wasn't struck off for that?

You may need to look up the meaning of words i wrote

Or/and
Maybe just reread it slowly?

EmmyFr · 15/02/2026 11:47

@PithyViewer he explicitly said he would disregard the wish of a female patient not to be treated by him as a male. I'm not saying this is the assault referred to by another poster, I'm not even saying it has already happened, but that's enough to feel sorry for the Australian female patients

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:43

AnSolas · 15/02/2026 11:42

He is a bloke who said he expectation was that another staff member participate in allowing his assault of a female patient.

He may have clinical skills. Its his ethical outlook which is the problem.

People with poor ethics are not good employees as they introduce avoidable risk into the work place.

Its well known that if an individuals has poor ethics in one area of life flows this into all areas of that individuals life.

He assaulted a female patient? How come he wasn't struck off for that?

hholiday · 15/02/2026 11:43

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:22

Why do you feel sorry for the Australian women patients? Her medical skills aren't in question and there is no evidence or suggestion that she has ever mistreated any female patient. If you had a collapse and she was the only doctor in sight (like on a plane) I bet you'd be quite happy to put your prejudices aside and have her treat you!

No six ft plus hockey goalie bloke in dress-up gets to treat me without my consent, which he said he would if I requested woman-only care. Particularly not if he goes and blubs in the car park afterwards when I tell him no.

AnSolas · 15/02/2026 11:42

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:22

Why do you feel sorry for the Australian women patients? Her medical skills aren't in question and there is no evidence or suggestion that she has ever mistreated any female patient. If you had a collapse and she was the only doctor in sight (like on a plane) I bet you'd be quite happy to put your prejudices aside and have her treat you!

He is a bloke who said he expectation was that another staff member participate in allowing his assault of a female patient.

He may have clinical skills. Its his ethical outlook which is the problem.

People with poor ethics are not good employees as they introduce avoidable risk into the work place.

Its well known that if an individuals has poor ethics in one area of life flows this into all areas of that individuals life.

NaomiCunninghamHasHadHerWeetabixAgain · 15/02/2026 11:39

CriticalCondition · 15/02/2026 11:34

The 'has quit employment at Fife' is the only confirmed part of the story. The 'going to Australia' part is just speculation by 'an insider' at Fife. However it's not unreasonable speculation as the path to Oz is well trodden by UK medics (I happen to know two myself).

And it's an even more attractive move for someone who can see that the legal proceedings in which they are a central witness are far from over. There is the real possibility of a retrial of Sandie's case plus the additional claims she's started against Searle et al which have barely started. Not to mention the potential for professional disciplinary proceedings.

If it happens it will no doubt be framed as 'forced to flee UK because of transphobia'. 'Didn't fancy facing difficult questions from Ben Cooper and Naomi Cunningham' doesn't sound so good..

I'd move to the other side of the world too if I was going to be facing Ben and Naomi!!!

Snippit · 15/02/2026 11:37

BoeotianNightmare · 15/02/2026 11:09

Not sure he is cut out to be a doctor, what with his incredibly thin skin and a nasty case of main character syndrome.

Sounds very much like my daughters gynaecologist, seems to be a personality trait for some professionals in the NHS. He did a real number on her, poor girl has been diagnosed with CPTSD due to his God like attitude!

Soontobe60 · 15/02/2026 11:36

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:22

Why do you feel sorry for the Australian women patients? Her medical skills aren't in question and there is no evidence or suggestion that she has ever mistreated any female patient. If you had a collapse and she was the only doctor in sight (like on a plane) I bet you'd be quite happy to put your prejudices aside and have her treat you!

His/him
No-one on this planet really believes he’s the only human being ever to have successfully changed sex.

CriticalCondition · 15/02/2026 11:34

The 'has quit employment at Fife' is the only confirmed part of the story. The 'going to Australia' part is just speculation by 'an insider' at Fife. However it's not unreasonable speculation as the path to Oz is well trodden by UK medics (I happen to know two myself).

And it's an even more attractive move for someone who can see that the legal proceedings in which they are a central witness are far from over. There is the real possibility of a retrial of Sandie's case plus the additional claims she's started against Searle et al which have barely started. Not to mention the potential for professional disciplinary proceedings.

If it happens it will no doubt be framed as 'forced to flee UK because of transphobia'. 'Didn't fancy facing difficult questions from Ben Cooper and Naomi Cunningham' doesn't sound so good..

Soontobe60 · 15/02/2026 11:33

CousinBette · 15/02/2026 10:44

Dragging that poor wife of his thousands of miles from home to indulge his fantasies eh

She seemed to be very supportive of him during the trial. Maybe she’s staying here though?

DworkinWasRight · 15/02/2026 11:31

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:22

Why do you feel sorry for the Australian women patients? Her medical skills aren't in question and there is no evidence or suggestion that she has ever mistreated any female patient. If you had a collapse and she was the only doctor in sight (like on a plane) I bet you'd be quite happy to put your prejudices aside and have her treat you!

Upton described himself in court as a “biological woman”. Call me prejudiced, but I have this crazy preference for being treated by doctors with a basic grasp of science.

AnnaMagnani · 15/02/2026 11:31

More boringly, I suspect his contract has finished in Fife. There is a recruitment crisis for junior doctors making it hard to get a job in the UK at the next step on the career ladder.

Having been off sick for ages won't help his job applications, even though they are all done anonymised.

We export loads of doctors to Australia and New Zealand every year - if he can't get a job in Scotland, Australia is the obvious place to go, especially as he will know where to go for the highest level of trans protection.

Brefugee · 15/02/2026 11:29

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:22

Why do you feel sorry for the Australian women patients? Her medical skills aren't in question and there is no evidence or suggestion that she has ever mistreated any female patient. If you had a collapse and she was the only doctor in sight (like on a plane) I bet you'd be quite happy to put your prejudices aside and have her treat you!

i wouldn't let a doctor who believes he is a biological woman near me with a 10 foot bargepole.

Good post though, gave me a right belly laugh

TheSandgroper · 15/02/2026 11:27

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:22

Why do you feel sorry for the Australian women patients? Her medical skills aren't in question and there is no evidence or suggestion that she has ever mistreated any female patient. If you had a collapse and she was the only doctor in sight (like on a plane) I bet you'd be quite happy to put your prejudices aside and have her treat you!

Sall Grover puts it perfectly. “If you are prepared to lie to me about what a woman is, what else are you prepared to lie to me about”.

Not what this little Vegemite wants in a doctor.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/02/2026 11:27

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:22

Why do you feel sorry for the Australian women patients? Her medical skills aren't in question and there is no evidence or suggestion that she has ever mistreated any female patient. If you had a collapse and she was the only doctor in sight (like on a plane) I bet you'd be quite happy to put your prejudices aside and have her treat you!

what have a delusional creepy role playing man touch me? errr, nope

RhannionKPSS · 15/02/2026 11:27

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:22

Why do you feel sorry for the Australian women patients? Her medical skills aren't in question and there is no evidence or suggestion that she has ever mistreated any female patient. If you had a collapse and she was the only doctor in sight (like on a plane) I bet you'd be quite happy to put your prejudices aside and have her treat you!

He, not she , and I hardly think anyone would trust the judgment of a doctor , any doctor, who doesn’t know biology, especially their own

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NaomiCunninghamHasHadHerWeetabixAgain · 15/02/2026 11:25

If he thinks Fifers can be straight talking, wait until he meets a true blue Aussie 😂I'm thinking of THAT scene in Crocodile Dundee. I've been a few times to Australia and even I have been a bit surprised at the things they sometimes just come right out and say! Suspect it might be a hard first shift there for the Doctor if he's offended by some elderly lady calling him 'son'.

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:22

user2848502016 · 15/02/2026 10:36

Well he’s going to find it difficult to work in the NHS after such a public court case so I’m not surprised.
Just feel sorry for the Australian women he’s going to be treating

Why do you feel sorry for the Australian women patients? Her medical skills aren't in question and there is no evidence or suggestion that she has ever mistreated any female patient. If you had a collapse and she was the only doctor in sight (like on a plane) I bet you'd be quite happy to put your prejudices aside and have her treat you!

BoeotianNightmare · 15/02/2026 11:09

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 15/02/2026 10:59

Is he going before he was struck off? Only a matter of time really with his lack of empathy and kindness.

Not sure he is cut out to be a doctor, what with his incredibly thin skin and a nasty case of main character syndrome.

Davros · 15/02/2026 11:09

Or has he got a severe case of the vapours?

NotInMyyName · 15/02/2026 11:05

I wondered if he had exhausted his time to be paid on sick leave (I may have read somewhere he was on sick leave with his nerves! ).

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 15/02/2026 11:01

If Aus will have him, even captured Aus has it's limits.

But please Aus he's a great chap please take him, you won't regret it I promise. (🤞behind back, so I'm not a liar 😂)

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 15/02/2026 10:59

Is he going before he was struck off? Only a matter of time really with his lack of empathy and kindness.

AnSolas · 15/02/2026 10:58

Hoardasurass · 15/02/2026 10:52

Does anyone know if hes still under the gmc complaints process. I'm just wondering what will happen to our ongoing complaints

That was my first question.

If he has been listed as a female and has no open cases recorded with the GMC his belief that safebuarding and informend consent dont apply to him or others who would ignore a SS request gets lost as an issue arising from professional standards.

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