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So Doctor “ Beth “ Upton is off to pastures new , leaving a large ongoing bill for NHS Fife

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RhannionKPSS · 15/02/2026 10:30

Dr Upton is off to Australia it seems, after creating a toxic situation for women in NHS Fife, wonder if Dr Upton is going to be working in “ Gender Services “ down under ?

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orangemapleleaves · 25/04/2026 09:33

Australia is going to be a big culture shock. It's multicultural but it's also a loonnng way from Scotland and in my experience the expats - like anywhere - spend time with their own communities, whether Bhutanese or Scottish or British, to decompress and feel like they can be themselves.

Don't know how easy that will be in this case, given what's gone down.

thetinsoldier · 24/04/2026 14:45

TBF the NHS is to blame for not having a decent, legal policy for single sex changing rooms.

FeralWoman · 23/04/2026 11:36

Found it. Strengthened laws for the protection of LGBTQIA+ people in NSW:

https://www.nsw.gov.au/ministerial-releases/nsw-government-to-strengthen-laws-to-protect-lgbtqia-community

mypinkdog · 23/04/2026 11:28

Maybe he posted on here 😂
https://www.expatwoman.com/global/forum/australia-new-zealand

anyolddinosaur · 23/04/2026 10:31

Many British young doctors currently struggle to get a training place in the UK. Those who do get a place will have been a lot more than just their job. Dr Upton had a lot of sick leave so was never going to be a competitive candidate for any job here. If he ever wants to return he'll need to concentrate on his job rather than how to can make up stories about his colleagues and work on his own health. I hope his parents and whoever was his mentor before he left will finally have made that crystal clear to him.

FeralWoman · 23/04/2026 07:13

TheSandgroper · 23/04/2026 05:49

Someone must have told him he would have a soft landing over here

https://archive.md/Fxx8q

Add to that NSW has recently strengthened its laws about hate speech and discrimination against LGBTQIA+ people. Can’t remember where I read it but they passed new laws within the past few months. Premier Chris Minns seems determined to keep NSW people tightly under control and unable to say anything or hold protests. I’m not convinced that he’s actually Labor. Seems more like LNP.

So much for Dr Upton quietly moving to Australia. Bet he didn’t think he’d get this sort of publicity here.

TheSandgroper · 23/04/2026 07:05

@Cailin66 Yes. Sadly, we have no Mumsnet Australia and, also sadly, Pauline is no Mary Whitehouse. We need both.

Cailin66 · 23/04/2026 06:52

TheSandgroper · 23/04/2026 05:49

Someone must have told him he would have a soft landing over here

https://archive.md/Fxx8q

It’s so similar to the Stonewall infiltration of the NHS, public bodies and large companies it’s uncanny. They even have a similar scheme to the now discredited Stonewall Diversity Championship Scheme. At least doctors are fighting back against their representative body being so captured.

TheSandgroper · 23/04/2026 05:49

Someone must have told him he would have a soft landing over here

https://archive.md/Fxx8q

FeralWoman · 22/04/2026 09:07

ScathingAngelAgrona · 22/04/2026 08:29

Sorry, being pedantic. It is spelt Koala. (Typed that, it looked wrong, but is correct.)

Be careful of the Drop Bears…

Edited

The drop bears are lethal cold-blooded killers.

Still trending at no.12. Many of the most prominent GC Australian women on Twitter have posted about Dr Upton.

SirChenjins · 22/04/2026 08:37

FeralWoman · 21/04/2026 18:59

@Needmoresleep They have chlamydia. Dirty little bastards. There’s a koala chlamydia vaccine undergoing trials in some areas. Seems to be pretty successful. Despite what we tell tourists to scare them and amuse ourselves, humans can’t catch chlamydia from koalas. Two different strains. Like most invasive or shitty things that fuck with the native flora and fauna, koalas probably got infected from British cows and sheep that were brought here.

Good job everyone on Twitter/X. Dr Upton is number 8 for Trending in Australia.

Good to know his whereabouts is now very public and people in that area of NSW know exactly what sort of man he is.

ScathingAngelAgrona · 22/04/2026 08:29

Sorry, being pedantic. It is spelt Koala. (Typed that, it looked wrong, but is correct.)

Be careful of the Drop Bears…

FeralWoman · 21/04/2026 18:59

@Needmoresleep They have chlamydia. Dirty little bastards. There’s a koala chlamydia vaccine undergoing trials in some areas. Seems to be pretty successful. Despite what we tell tourists to scare them and amuse ourselves, humans can’t catch chlamydia from koalas. Two different strains. Like most invasive or shitty things that fuck with the native flora and fauna, koalas probably got infected from British cows and sheep that were brought here.

Good job everyone on Twitter/X. Dr Upton is number 8 for Trending in Australia.

So Doctor “ Beth “ Upton is off to pastures new , leaving a large ongoing bill for NHS Fife
Needmoresleep · 21/04/2026 13:31

It will be interesting. If Theo/Beth can keep their head down and get on with the job - fair dinkum

If they demand access to women's spaces, including those of staff and patients, without the consent of the women affected, they cannot claim they were not forewarned.

I wonder if they can?

Port Macquarie has a kuala breeding programme and a kuala hospital. They look cute but I understand they are vicious little brutes with venereal disease.

SirChenjins · 21/04/2026 13:01

Needmoresleep · 21/04/2026 12:31

My predictions above were correct. Upton has got the sort of job that is often open to doctors from overseas. A&E, especially at junior level is hard to staff. Busy and anti social hours. He has wisely opted for a resort rather than a rural farming or mining area, but probably still less popular, as Australian residents, who receive recruitment priority, usually prefer cities at this point in their careers.

My doctor daughter left for Australia two weeks ago. She is lucky to have a contract in the area she wants to specialise in, and in a major city, but both will face the same dilemma once those contracts are over. Hang round on short term contracts until you get residency, and are able to compete for a training place in Australia. Or join the intense competition for either trust jobs (we don't offer resident priority so no advantage in being British) or for training.

Its tough for them all. Theo/Beth will presumably realise that to keep the option of staying in Australia open, they will need to keep their head down and focus on the job. No new contract = no new visa. DDs observation was that Australian hospitals put a lot of emphasis on practical experience and on references. So Theo/Beth needs to focus on the job rather than theyself and their specialness.

That's interesting to hear - I hope Theo/Beth is kept extremely busy working unsociable hours. Aussies in NSW can be quite direct, so perhaps he'll have to rethink his threat of continuing to treat women against their wishes.

Needmoresleep · 21/04/2026 12:31

My predictions above were correct. Upton has got the sort of job that is often open to doctors from overseas. A&E, especially at junior level is hard to staff. Busy and anti social hours. He has wisely opted for a resort rather than a rural farming or mining area, but probably still less popular, as Australian residents, who receive recruitment priority, usually prefer cities at this point in their careers.

My doctor daughter left for Australia two weeks ago. She is lucky to have a contract in the area she wants to specialise in, and in a major city, but both will face the same dilemma once those contracts are over. Hang round on short term contracts until you get residency, and are able to compete for a training place in Australia. Or join the intense competition for either trust jobs (we don't offer resident priority so no advantage in being British) or for training.

Its tough for them all. Theo/Beth will presumably realise that to keep the option of staying in Australia open, they will need to keep their head down and focus on the job. No new contract = no new visa. DDs observation was that Australian hospitals put a lot of emphasis on practical experience and on references. So Theo/Beth needs to focus on the job rather than theyself and their specialness.

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 21/04/2026 12:12

He also said words to the effect that he identifies as female and is not a robot so is therefore a biological woman, which delusion may somewhat explain his entitled attitude to treating women who ask to be treated by a woman.
I'd choose the robot.

SidewaysOtter · 21/04/2026 11:28

mypinkdog · 21/04/2026 10:20

Wait - what the fuck ?

Yup, I remember reading the tribunal transcripts of just what linguistic hoops a woman would have to crawl through (while, let's not forget, traumatised, worried, in pain, desperate for treatment or whatever) to create a situation where she would be able to exclude Dr Upton from treating her when she'd asked for a female doctor.

And as for whether or not anyone would want Dr Upton treating them, I'd be very nervous of treatment from a doctor who thinks biological sex is a 'nebulous dog whistle'.

mypinkdog · 21/04/2026 10:20

Easytoconfuse · 21/04/2026 06:27

I feel sorry for women patients because he said, under oath, that he would treat them whether or not they wanted to be treated by a man, and it would be up to them to stop him.

Those would be women who have a legal right to ask to be treated by someone of their own sex. Which, as we all know now, means biological sex and not silly game playing.

Why are their rights less important than what Dr Upton and all those who have decided that they have a different gender want?

Wait - what the fuck ?

borntobequiet · 21/04/2026 08:35

That’s a very good article. And Upton will cause problems by pushing boundaries at the expense of women wherever he goes. It’s in his nature.

ScathingAngelAgrona · 21/04/2026 08:19

FeralWoman · 21/04/2026 06:27

I thought he would have gone for Victoria not New South Wales. Victoria is the most trans friendly state and state government. I guess NSW had a suitable vacancy in Emergency medicine.

Victoria pushes the pretenders agenda very strongly. Not visiting any time soon.

Easytoconfuse · 21/04/2026 06:32

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:43

He assaulted a female patient? How come he wasn't struck off for that?

That's not what the OP said. Dr Upton said that he expected to be called to examine a biological woman who said that they did not want a biological male examining them. The person calling Dr Upton to examine the biological woman would then be facilitating his wishes at the expense of a woman who would almost certainly be in pain and vulnerable.

Does that not bother you the tiniest amount? If not for yourself then perhaps you have a mother, a sister, a daughter or a woman friend who can explain to you that women are not solely there to indulge male wishes and fantasies.

Easytoconfuse · 21/04/2026 06:27

PithyViewer · 15/02/2026 11:22

Why do you feel sorry for the Australian women patients? Her medical skills aren't in question and there is no evidence or suggestion that she has ever mistreated any female patient. If you had a collapse and she was the only doctor in sight (like on a plane) I bet you'd be quite happy to put your prejudices aside and have her treat you!

I feel sorry for women patients because he said, under oath, that he would treat them whether or not they wanted to be treated by a man, and it would be up to them to stop him.

Those would be women who have a legal right to ask to be treated by someone of their own sex. Which, as we all know now, means biological sex and not silly game playing.

Why are their rights less important than what Dr Upton and all those who have decided that they have a different gender want?

FeralWoman · 21/04/2026 06:27

I thought he would have gone for Victoria not New South Wales. Victoria is the most trans friendly state and state government. I guess NSW had a suitable vacancy in Emergency medicine.

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