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A call to all wims to challenge registered charities who claim to be women’s services who include “transwomen”

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Hedgehogforshort · 12/02/2026 21:08

Inspired by a post about Nottinghams Women’s Centre being trans inclusive, I think it is time we did something. Like pull the ruddy rug on them.

I don’t think it will need the extensive work of the NHS data thread.

There are hundreds of alleged women’s only services who are registered charities. They mostly have a governing document describing themselves as for women only but do not mention “transwomen” in their objects, but do in unlawful policy documents.

All charities have a beneficiary group, which they cannot stray from.

Also if they change their objectives to be “inclusive’”IMHO” the funds they hold on behalf of the original beneficiaries, must be handed back or ring fenced, which is why some of the major charities have conceded, ergo the WI and GG.

My idea is that we target our own localities and make a complaint to the charity commission, about the charity we are a potential beneficiary of.

what do you all think? Happy to coordinate this though i may need @knottyauty

meanwhile i am off to look at a few national bodies

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EwwSprouts · 16/02/2026 22:11

I like this very inclusive statement:
"Support For All Women
We work with women born a girl and living as a woman aged 18 and above across all communities and backgrounds, including:
Black, Asian, and Minority Ethnic groups
Refugees, asylum seekers, and migrant workers
Women with disabilities, mental health needs, or substance use challenges"
www.purplehouse.co.uk/domestic-violence-support-service/

Perhaps could be offered as good practice in making a charity's position clear to potential service users?

Thelnebriati · 16/02/2026 22:08

Allisnotlost1 · 16/02/2026 22:00

God yeah, this is a great way to protect women and girls, tying up charities with admin like this while they’re often struggling to survive. Trans inclusion can mean being able to access wider sources of funding, including statutory contracts, which ultimately benefits everyone in need of services.

Ask yourself what changed. Why are women's services so hated that they can no longer be tolerated?

AmbiguityIsKey · 16/02/2026 22:04

Ok, thanks. I’ll have a look at some charities. I’m not sure about SARSAS. I think they provide services to everyone, which is great, but I’ll need to check if they have some single sex provision. Surely no one wants mixed sex groups.

SirChenjins · 16/02/2026 22:04

Allisnotlost1 · 16/02/2026 22:00

God yeah, this is a great way to protect women and girls, tying up charities with admin like this while they’re often struggling to survive. Trans inclusion can mean being able to access wider sources of funding, including statutory contracts, which ultimately benefits everyone in need of services.

Well then it's very simple, isn't it - focus on protecting women and girls and stop spending time, effort and resources defending the rights of men above all else.

Allisnotlost1 · 16/02/2026 22:00

God yeah, this is a great way to protect women and girls, tying up charities with admin like this while they’re often struggling to survive. Trans inclusion can mean being able to access wider sources of funding, including statutory contracts, which ultimately benefits everyone in need of services.

moto748e · 16/02/2026 21:55

@Hedgehogforshort You left out the — with its legally binding charitable objects.

Is that clearer? I get that 'reconcile' doesn't necessarily requires two things. But perhaps best to lose the dash; that's an AI thing, isn't it?

Hedgehogforshort · 16/02/2026 21:38

am writing to you as a member of the public with an interest in charity law and regulatory compliance, to seek clarification regarding your charity’s stated beneficiaries, in your governing document.

Your activities as stated are for the benefit of {women and/or girls/children}.

As you will be aware, following the UK Supreme Court judgment in For Women Scotland Ltd v Scottish Ministers (2024), it is now established in law that, for the purposes of the Equality Act 2010, “sex” means biological sex.
In light of this, I am seeking clarification as to how your charity reconciles its current published policies and/or service-eligibility statements — which appear to include biological males who identify as female.

As trustees, you will be aware of your duties under charity law to ensure that the charity operates strictly within its stated objects, and that charitable funds and services are applied only for the purposes for which the charity is established.

Where a charity’s activities extend beyond, or are inconsistent with, its objects, {activities, services, research, policy statements} that are in conflict with your stated objectives, and as a result will expose your charity to regulatory breaches.

I would therefore be grateful if you could confirm one or more of the following:

  1. That your charity’s services and benefits are in fact restricted to biological women and/or girls, in accordance with your objects and the current legal definition of sex; or
  2. That your governing document has been formally amended to redefine the beneficiary class, and that such amendment has been properly determined by way of appropriate attention to your constitution. or
  3. That your published policies or guidance are being reviewed and brought into alignment with your charitable objects and the current legal position.
I raise this matter in the interests of clarity, good governance, and regulatory compliance, and would appreciate your response setting out the charity’s position. Yours sincerely,
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moto748e · 16/02/2026 21:38

Hedgehogforshort · 16/02/2026 21:04

Oo thanks plenty to get my teeth into

i already know quite a few of them, but will check them all out again. I will be tweaking the draft letter as certain phrases are not normal parlance, such as ultra virus which is a legal term strictly related to public authorities, but will post an adapted version shortly.

thanks again.

Heh! I would never have thought of that, but yes, you're spot-on with that. Just have to have an eye for these things, I guess. Amazing work you wims are doing here.

Hedgehogforshort · 16/02/2026 21:04

Oo thanks plenty to get my teeth into

i already know quite a few of them, but will check them all out again. I will be tweaking the draft letter as certain phrases are not normal parlance, such as ultra virus which is a legal term strictly related to public authorities, but will post an adapted version shortly.

thanks again.

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RogueFemale · 16/02/2026 20:46

I ❤ChatGPT. It's extremely good when you give it good data/ input.

RogueFemale · 16/02/2026 20:42

@Hedgehogforshort A follow-up comment by ChatGPT.

"Notes on why this letter works (quietly, but effectively)

  • It does not argue ideology — it anchors everything in:
  • charitable objects
  • trustee duties
  • Supreme Court authority
  • It forces trustees into a limited set of responses, all of which are informative:
  • denial (useful),
  • admission of inclusion (useful),
  • promise of review (very useful).
  • It creates a paper trail that is directly usable in a Charity Commission complaint if needed.
If you’d like, next time we can:
  • adapt this into a second-stage escalation letter, or
  • draft a model Charity Commission complaint that references a non-responsive or unsatisfactory reply.
This is exactly the right tone for what you’re doing."
RogueFemale · 16/02/2026 20:40

@Hedgehogforshort ChatGPT's suggested draft letter:

Dear Trustees,
I am writing to you as a member of the public with an interest in charity law and regulatory compliance, to seek clarification regarding your charity’s stated beneficiary eligibility criteria.
According to your governing document, the charitable objects of [Charity name] are directed towards the benefit of women and/or girls. As you will be aware, following the UK Supreme Court judgment in For Women Scotland Ltd v Scottish Ministers (2024), it is now established in law that, for the purposes of the Equality Act 2010, “sex” means biological sex.
In light of this, I am seeking clarification as to how your charity reconciles its current published policies and/or service-eligibility statements — which appear to include biological males who identify as female — with its legally binding charitable objects.
As trustees, you will be aware of your duties under charity law to ensure that the charity operates strictly within its stated objects, and that charitable funds and services are applied only for the purposes for which the charity is established. Where a charity’s activities extend beyond, or are inconsistent with, its objects, this may constitute ultra vires activity and expose the charity to regulatory risk.
I would therefore be grateful if you could confirm one or more of the following:

  1. That your charity’s services and benefits are in fact restricted to biological women and/or girls, in accordance with your objects and the current legal definition of sex; or
  2. That your governing document has been formally amended to redefine the beneficiary class, and that such amendment has been properly authorised and registered; or
  3. That your published policies or guidance are being reviewed and brought into alignment with your charitable objects and the current legal position.
I raise this matter in the interests of clarity, good governance, and regulatory compliance, and would appreciate your response setting out the charity’s position. Yours sincerely,
RogueFemale · 16/02/2026 20:35

@Hedgehogforshort Every single one needs to be checked IRL first. ChatGPT's first list included Girl Guides, who have changed their policy.

RogueFemale · 16/02/2026 20:34

@Hedgehogforshort I asked for a few more. Got this.

Additional Candidates: Women/Girls Charities for
Case-by-Case Examination
This document is an initial regulatory-risk triage list. Inclusion here does not assert wrongdoing. Each entry
requires case-by-case examination of charitable objects versus operational practice.
● Women in Prison: Support for women affected by the criminal justice system; sex-segregated
context.
● Nia: Ending violence against women and girls; front-line sexual violence services.
● Southall Black Sisters: Advocacy and support for Black and minority ethnic women; inclusion
language creates tension with sex-based objects.
● Eaves: Support for women facing homelessness, exploitation and abuse; safeguarding-intensive
context.
● Forward UK: African women and girls’ health and rights; sex-linked cultural harms.
● Women for Refugee Women: Support for refugee women; explicitly women-only framing with
inclusion statements.
● Bloody Good Period: Menstrual health support for women and girls; biological function central to
purpose.

RogueFemale · 16/02/2026 20:32

@Hedgehogforshort

Initial Triage: Women/Girls Charities for Case-by-Case
Examination
This document is an initial regulatory-risk triage list. Inclusion here does not assert wrongdoing. Each entry
requires case-by-case examination of charitable objects versus operational practice.
● Rape Crisis England & Wales: Support for women and girls affected by rape and sexual violence;
publicly stated inclusion policies broaden eligibility.
● Women's Aid: Ending domestic abuse against women and children; sector-leading umbrella body
with inclusion statements.
● Refuge: Protection of women and children from domestic violence; high-profile service provision with
inclusion policies.
● Solace Women’s Aid: London-based domestic abuse services for women; public eligibility
statements broaden beneficiaries.
● Women & Girls Network: Support for women and girls affected by violence; front-line services with
inclusion statements.
● Imkaan: Support for Black and minoritised women facing violence; inclusion language broadens
scope.
● Rights of Women: Free legal advice for women; eligibility statements include trans-identifying males.
● Fawcett Society: Advancement of women’s equality; campaigning body with inclusive definitions.
● Young Women’s Trust: Economic justice for young women; public statements broaden beneficiary
definition.
● The Girls’ Network: Mentoring for girls from disadvantaged backgrounds; inclusion policies broaden
eligibility.
● The Survivors Trust: Umbrella body for sexual violence services; influential guidance with inclusive framing.

Hedgehogforshort · 15/02/2026 22:02

@AmbiguityIsKey Oh thanks i think once this evolves there will be plenty to do.

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AmbiguityIsKey · 15/02/2026 21:55

Yeah do! I wrote to sarsas following the ruling saying I was pleased about it. And got a very wishy washy response back. I’m up for doing more

Hedgehogforshort · 15/02/2026 21:46

I am of a mind to draft an e mail letter to Women’s Aid and post it on here for approval tomorrow.

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RogueFemale · 15/02/2026 21:46

Hedgehogforshort · 15/02/2026 21:35

Yes i know, but they can be taken to a charity tribunal for failure to enforce something. There are strict time limits and we would have to go through a complaint process first. But can lodge an appeal to stay within time limits.

but as long as we do not write to them to seek their position the clock does not tick.

upthread someone said that they were giving charities time to respond to FWS ruling i will give our strategy regarding what next with the offenders list some thought.

my expertise is charity law, accounting, tendering funding all that rammel as i worked in the sector for years in leadership roles.

Okay, shortlist tomorrow, and take it from there. Examine shortlist.

Hedgehogforshort · 15/02/2026 21:35

RogueFemale · 15/02/2026 21:23

@Hedgehogforshort also, just asked about who the Charity Commission is accountable to, and it's independent, can only be challenged by parliament, select committee, judicial review.

Yes i know, but they can be taken to a charity tribunal for failure to enforce something. There are strict time limits and we would have to go through a complaint process first. But can lodge an appeal to stay within time limits.

but as long as we do not write to them to seek their position the clock does not tick.

upthread someone said that they were giving charities time to respond to FWS ruling i will give our strategy regarding what next with the offenders list some thought.

my expertise is charity law, accounting, tendering funding all that rammel as i worked in the sector for years in leadership roles.

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RogueFemale · 15/02/2026 21:25

Hedgehogforshort · 15/02/2026 21:23

I am open to writing a template for offenders, we have the GLP judicial review under our belt as well.

ChatGPT can write the template - not purely by itself but it's very good if you give it a draft of your own to tweak.

Hedgehogforshort · 15/02/2026 21:24

BTW i have checked out Womens Aid England who are on thin ice.

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RogueFemale · 15/02/2026 21:23

@Hedgehogforshort also, just asked about who the Charity Commission is accountable to, and it's independent, can only be challenged by parliament, select committee, judicial review.

Hedgehogforshort · 15/02/2026 21:23

I am open to writing a template for offenders, we have the GLP judicial review under our belt as well.

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RogueFemale · 15/02/2026 21:22

Hedgehogforshort · 15/02/2026 21:21

Yes i dont have ChatGPT are you gonna do it x

Yes I will do it, tomorrow night (out all day tomorrow)

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