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Scotland PVG checks, feeling like a feminist issue?

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SueKeeper · 12/02/2026 16:30

I was wondering if anyone else is starting to resent the criminal record checking system in Scotland (PVG)? I think it's reached the point where women (who make up the vast majority of volunteers) are bearing a disproportionate financial burden to prevent crimes almost exclusively committed by men. I was wondering if anyone had heard of any kick back or feedback about it now that the rules have changed to be so extremely strict?

I now have 6 PVGs, 2 with schools to accompany my own kids on trips, even the walking bus, 3 with sports clubs and one to be able to help at scouts - I'm never in charge, one on one with kids or taking them to the toilet or anything, just an extra pair of hands. The PVG system has made £350+ checking me this year, taking this from schools and charities.

Now I'm trying to organise a sports event and normally we'd have marshals from the adult arm of the club helping out. They just stand there in a high Vis vest saying "go left." The tighter legislation means we aren't allowed to "offer them the role," without first doing a PVG check on them or I could be in legal trouble. It's just so unrealistic when trying to recruit volunteers, you are almost begging people, not making them jump through hoops. This is financially and legally too much that the event will just not run. The schools are also limiting school trips, nothing spontaneous like going to the local bookshop 5mins away can happen now, bike ability cancelled.

I think it's a feminist issue as kids and women are missing out on enriching experiences and paying money because nobody will ever point out it's to solve a male problem, or even if there was a problem under the less strict guidelines (which matched England). More than 90% of volunteers at our school are women.

I know it's the same government who think men in female prisons is A-OK safeguarding wise - the irony isnt lost on me - but I'd like not to derail to that, if okay.

P S not a new poster but name changed as I've ranted about it a bit locally and within our club!

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Poshjock · 12/02/2026 17:09

The whole system doesn’t seem fit for purpose. I have just stepped back from extra work and volunteering because I just don’t want to have to apply for all the additional PVG. I already hold one (employer pays) and the other part of my role is in England so I also hold CRB as they are not compatible (employer also pays). Our policy is reapply every 5 years, which isn’t CRB rule but is PVG. Many English NHS policy is on change of role so it isn’t even consistent how often it’s checked.

I agree with pp. you should be registered with a list of employers/interested parties and any change to your registration should be pushed to them. Currently it seems like more of a money generating exercise, although more likely money generating only enough to pay for the admin cost of supplying a system to look like it’s protecting vulnerable people. I personally don’t believe it is actually protecting anyone.

Macadamian · 12/02/2026 16:56

I've wondered for a long time why you can't have a single PVG 'licence' associated with your NI number, viewable online to any prospective employer/event manager etc whom you provide your personal code to. They then log that they are currently 'employing' you.
You would have to do a redeclaration say every year. The police etc have access to the system, which automatically updates if any crime is committed by you (linked to your NI number). If anything changes, the system automatically notifies any employers/groups who you are currently working with. Much safer.

TheGoddessAthena · 12/02/2026 16:45

It's a fecking joke, and as per usual Scot Gov are creating lots of work to keep people busy and employed and we're all paying for it.

I work ad hoc as an exam invigilator in secondary schools. I am often 1 to 1 with children who have extra time or use a computer. I absolutely do need to have a PVG for that. But I also work part time as a tutor for adults. I need a PVG for that too, in case I ... what? act inappropriately with an adult in a room with 10 other adults present?

I was always clear when involved in PTA and playgroup that of course everyone was PVG checked but that is guarantee of nothing and ANY problems or concerns should be immediately flagged up.

Awrite · 12/02/2026 16:35

I agree. Common sense has gone out the window and children will miss out as a result.

Fewer trips, speakers, events etc will be organised until this new rule is either overturned or scaled right back.

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