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Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

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fromorbit · 11/02/2026 07:59

Looks like it was a man in a dress. Another tragedy. More lives lost. Boys with violent tendencies cannot be told they are actually girls. The violent background of trans activism is a problem.

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BREAKING

The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang.

Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023.

Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning how to shoot rifles when he was just a child. Many guns were kept in the family's residence.

Facebook posts from his mother indicate he may have struggled with behavioral issues, including violent tendencies, from a very young age.

Strang fatally shot 10 people prior to taking his own life.

In 2021, Strang launched a YouTube channel that was promoted by his mother on her Facebook. The channel was dedicated to "hunting, self-reliance, guns" and his other interests. At some point, Strang deleted the content on the channel and changed his handle from "Jesse Boy" to "JessJessUwU." The only remaining post on the channel was made 6 months ago and reads "I've been pretty, um, aimless."

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BREAKING The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang. Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023. Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning ho...

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ScrollingLeaves · 13/02/2026 13:31

fromorbit · 13/02/2026 09:37

Agreed. Women in the US have a difficult and awful situation.

Yet note even there is a lot of sexist nonsense on the Republican side that a lot of MAGA women are very outspoken, with power and far from traditional. Longterm past Trump the US right are going to be moving in different directions hopefully better ones.

The point is to give women agency and over time steps forward will be made. If you let women SPEAK then you get a better society.

Not perfect, but better. Women get the chance to have agency, to make choices both good and bad.

I think American women were often very much more assertive and demanding of rights than European women. If they survived at all as pioneers they were holding their own very often. They also were not expected to have dowries ( even in the U.K. middle class men often looked for money or titles).

AnSolas · 13/02/2026 13:11

ItsNotOrwell · 13/02/2026 11:46

Absolutely, but I don’t believe an erroneous early report in a news report will stop accurate statistic-gathering by the Canadian authorities. It wouldn’t be marked as a female crime.

What have you based that on?

In Canada legislation has been added such that female means "some women and some men".

The Canadian police used female words to detail his crimes.

If he had lived he would have been (likely) placed in a Womans Prison as his gender identy placed over recognising his sex.

Why do you think the State would not recorded him under their label "female - some women and some men"?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 13/02/2026 12:39

ItsNotOrwell · 13/02/2026 11:46

Absolutely, but I don’t believe an erroneous early report in a news report will stop accurate statistic-gathering by the Canadian authorities. It wouldn’t be marked as a female crime.

Canada has self id. According to Canada's laws, it is a female crime. "Female" in Canada means something other than body sex now.

So why would they record it as a male crime when neither their law nor their society would officially consider this person as male? From the Canadian perspective (not that of the people necessarily but of the officialdom) he is no more a male than he is a teapot or an orange. It's simply not a word that applies to him.

Playingvideogames · 13/02/2026 12:16

InconvenientlyMaterial · 13/02/2026 11:48

I worry that leftwing misogynists would come for abortion rights if they thought it would help them. They don't believe in abortion rights for women from an ethical standpoint. They only believe in them so far as they can use them as leverage.

This is obvious because left wing misogynists tend to mention abortion only as a threat eg "look what rights you'll lose if you don't acquiesce to us".

If it seems inconceivable, just consider how "free speech" is now often framed as a right wing concern. Consider how leftwing misogynists can campaign for single sex toilets in India whilst campaigning to abolish them in the West. Or consider the chilling push to reframe fgm because condemning it upsets some men.

When it comes down to it, misogynists both right and left are going to always put men first. Whatever that takes.

I think their ‘contribution’ to reproductive rights would be to create an environment in which women are paid or emotionally pressured to be surrogates and to give up their anatomy for experiments to further the ‘female reproductive abilities’ of biological men etc - plus a heavy emphasis on egg donation to make the dreams of gay couples come true and so on.

Basically, dressing up the Handmaid’s Tale in a pride flag.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 13/02/2026 11:56

ItsNotOrwell · 13/02/2026 11:46

Absolutely, but I don’t believe an erroneous early report in a news report will stop accurate statistic-gathering by the Canadian authorities. It wouldn’t be marked as a female crime.

I'm pretty sure it will - by law - be recorded as a female crime in Canada. Any man who says he's a woman is literally a woman over there. In law. Even the male teacher who wore size Z prosthetic breasts to work in a school, then reverted to bloke once he was at home.

It would probably be a crime to record it accurately. (I note they seem to have no problem recording the victims by their sex not gender though).

InconvenientlyMaterial · 13/02/2026 11:48

I worry that leftwing misogynists would come for abortion rights if they thought it would help them. They don't believe in abortion rights for women from an ethical standpoint. They only believe in them so far as they can use them as leverage.

This is obvious because left wing misogynists tend to mention abortion only as a threat eg "look what rights you'll lose if you don't acquiesce to us".

If it seems inconceivable, just consider how "free speech" is now often framed as a right wing concern. Consider how leftwing misogynists can campaign for single sex toilets in India whilst campaigning to abolish them in the West. Or consider the chilling push to reframe fgm because condemning it upsets some men.

When it comes down to it, misogynists both right and left are going to always put men first. Whatever that takes.

ItsNotOrwell · 13/02/2026 11:46

speakout · 13/02/2026 07:44

It is important to know the sex of the shooter - accurately. In order to tackle and prevent gun crime, crime of any sort we have to have an accurate picture of what is actually going on. We need information that is true.
If this incident is marked down as a female shooter then figures become skewed, and understanding the reasons behind crime become foggy and innacurate. Provision for police handling, incarceration, rehabilitation all need accurate figures of prisoner sex.
Less than 2% of mass shooters are women- and that really, really matters.Mass shooting is almost exclusively carried out by men, and that is a crucial piece of information.

Absolutely, but I don’t believe an erroneous early report in a news report will stop accurate statistic-gathering by the Canadian authorities. It wouldn’t be marked as a female crime.

Zonder · 13/02/2026 11:43

nicepotoftea · 13/02/2026 11:02

My view is that women don't need to take crumbs from either side.

Well put.

Zonder · 13/02/2026 11:38

oldtiredcyclist · 13/02/2026 10:50

My view is, that you don't want to flip the coin and see what the other half are doing Grin

I'm perfectly happy to condemn bad treatment of women, whoever does it. However we were talking about trump and you don't seem to want to accept that he's a nightmare for women.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 13/02/2026 11:25

fromorbit · 13/02/2026 09:37

Agreed. Women in the US have a difficult and awful situation.

Yet note even there is a lot of sexist nonsense on the Republican side that a lot of MAGA women are very outspoken, with power and far from traditional. Longterm past Trump the US right are going to be moving in different directions hopefully better ones.

The point is to give women agency and over time steps forward will be made. If you let women SPEAK then you get a better society.

Not perfect, but better. Women get the chance to have agency, to make choices both good and bad.

Agree with this. There are some very powerful Republican women politicians and - unlike Democratic women politicians - they don't pretend men can become women. So they're freer and more powerful for that.

Trump's chief of staff is the first woman to hold that position. Bit of a lack of fanfare about that historical first - but it's important I think.

You can't really stand up for women's rights if men can be women. Abortion then becomes an issue that only affects some women (and not the important ones).

oldtiredcyclist · 13/02/2026 11:07

nicepotoftea · 13/02/2026 11:02

My view is that women don't need to take crumbs from either side.

I cannot disagree with that. I didn't vote in the 2024 general election, because I found myself politically homeless. As the dying Mercutio said "A plague on both your houses".

nicepotoftea · 13/02/2026 11:02

oldtiredcyclist · 13/02/2026 10:50

My view is, that you don't want to flip the coin and see what the other half are doing Grin

My view is that women don't need to take crumbs from either side.

oldtiredcyclist · 13/02/2026 10:50

Zonder · 13/02/2026 09:17

My view is that you've descended to whataboutery.

My view is, that you don't want to flip the coin and see what the other half are doing Grin

gruit · 13/02/2026 10:35

lcakethereforeIam · 13/02/2026 09:48

According to this article (the headline is total speculation imo) he seems to have been a recluse

https://archive.ph/UpQYg

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/02/13/police-called-home-canada-school-shooter/

Almost every resident The Telegraph spoke to described how “everyone knows everyone here”. Yet, very few appear to have known or met the shooter, describing him as a recluse.

Several of Van Rootselaar’s neighbours said they had hardly seen him.

chronically online Redditer?

YourAmplePlumPoster · 13/02/2026 10:29

He had mental health problems going back years and was most likely brainwashed by the trans activists on Reddit.

DrBlackbird · 13/02/2026 10:20

Sexism 2.0 is like living in a totalitarian regime. Something the women of the UK have less experience of. I'm told, by friends who grew up in actual totalitarianism, that in some ways this is worse, because at least they had free speech within the home. Sexism 2.0 grooms your daughters that your free speech means you wish them dead. Neither old school or new school sexism can conceive of the actual emancipation of women.

The particularly evil aspect was weaponising children and young people. Hiding sexual gratification behind ‘but children’ (and cementing sexist stereotypes) whilst simultaneously encouraging division/conflict between parents and children making it easier to exploit them.

There is an edited book here with chapters written by various experts on different aspects of gender ideology. For example a chapter on the medical impacts of PBs, CSHs, surgery. One on the psychosocial impacts. One on AGP. Another tracking the backgrounds of men pushing the ideology. Another analysing the Denton report. Another on the impact of force teaming the LGB with the T. One by Sharron Davies on the impact on women’s sports. Pretty much all the evidence collected on the pages of FWR.

What else could be included?

nicepotoftea · 13/02/2026 10:03

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2026 09:43

'Neither old school or new school sexism can conceive of the actual emancipation of women. See how each side threatens women with the worst of the other side. Their only world views consist of women being owned by either one set of men, or the other. Like two grossly entitled children arguing over a toy.'

And consider how girls and women are encouraged to see.themselves as that toy and nothing more, all the ways women are denigrated by both sides remain tellingly similar.

'Unfuckable' remains the worst accusation either the left or the right can come up with about women, and the solutions posed by both sides fail to break free of that value system.

And neither side knows what to do with women who don't care if men think they are 'fuckable'.

NotBadConsidering · 13/02/2026 09:58

fromorbit · 13/02/2026 08:57

A point I saw on X. There have been only 11 mass shootings in Canada since the 70s. All of those were carried out by males including Tumbler Ridge.

So, as of now, the Canadian trans school shooter rate is 9.1%, while the 2021 Canadians census suggests that only 0.33% of Canadians are trans/non-binary.

A lot of the stats discussed focus on the US where there have been a spate of trans mass shootings in recent years amongst the huge number of other killings, but we should remember in Canada mass shooting is far more rare.

But Canada will record it as 1 in 11 mass shootings in Canada are carried out by women.

lcakethereforeIam · 13/02/2026 09:48

WorriedMutha · 13/02/2026 09:12

Is there any evidence of a backlash in Canada since the shooting. This was a small town with a few thousand residents so everyone must know him and his history. Any chance of it breaking the silence/forcing a debate.

According to this article (the headline is total speculation imo) he seems to have been a recluse

https://archive.ph/UpQYg

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/02/13/police-called-home-canada-school-shooter/

Almost every resident The Telegraph spoke to described how “everyone knows everyone here”. Yet, very few appear to have known or met the shooter, describing him as a recluse.

Several of Van Rootselaar’s neighbours said they had hardly seen him.

Canada shooter targeted school ‘to finish off his family’

Duncan McKay tells The Telegraph that Jesse Van Rootselaar may have been trying to murder his younger sister and brother

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/02/13/police-called-home-canada-school-shooter/

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2026 09:43

'Neither old school or new school sexism can conceive of the actual emancipation of women. See how each side threatens women with the worst of the other side. Their only world views consist of women being owned by either one set of men, or the other. Like two grossly entitled children arguing over a toy.'

And consider how girls and women are encouraged to see.themselves as that toy and nothing more, all the ways women are denigrated by both sides remain tellingly similar.

'Unfuckable' remains the worst accusation either the left or the right can come up with about women, and the solutions posed by both sides fail to break free of that value system.

fromorbit · 13/02/2026 09:37

InconvenientlyMaterial · 13/02/2026 09:25

This is a good explanation.

I think quiet pushback against the old sexism is in our bones. It's not right, but women have had to do this forever. We passed it down to our daughters.

Sexism 2.0 is like living in a totalitarian regime. Something the women of the UK have less experience of. I'm told, by friends who grew up in actual totalitarianism, that in some ways this is worse, because at least they had free speech within the home. Sexism 2.0 grooms your daughters that your free speech means you wish them dead.

Neither old school or new school sexism can conceive of the actual emancipation of women. See how each side threatens women with the worst of the other side. Their only world views consist of women being owned by either one set of men, or the other. Like two grossly entitled children arguing over a toy.

Agreed. Women in the US have a difficult and awful situation.

Yet note even there is a lot of sexist nonsense on the Republican side that a lot of MAGA women are very outspoken, with power and far from traditional. Longterm past Trump the US right are going to be moving in different directions hopefully better ones.

The point is to give women agency and over time steps forward will be made. If you let women SPEAK then you get a better society.

Not perfect, but better. Women get the chance to have agency, to make choices both good and bad.

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InconvenientlyMaterial · 13/02/2026 09:25

fromorbit · 13/02/2026 08:51

Trump treats women badly. No doubt.

BUT - old school sexism and misogyny which still dominates much of the world is an enemy that women have been fighting FOREVER.

A lot of victories have been won. This is an enemy which we are never going to stop altogether, but which in many Western countries has been pushed back massively.

Sexism 2.0 which pretends women are not biological and/or rebrands traditional exploitation as empowerment is an interconnected threat, but it also in a certain way more dangerous.

Because if you can't name sexism how do you stop it.

Trump's election is a step back, but it is interconnected with wider issues. He won partially because sexism 2.0 also terrifies people and they resorted to an old model to fight back rather than rejecting both.

We take all of them down, but there is NO WAY to win if the gender people get their way. Look what just happened in that EU vote.

Because their stuff is interconnected with modern life in corporations, education, media everywhere.

It is like the sexist ideas that dominated society prior to the 70s spread by religion and custom. Only you were allowed to say those ideas hurt women. Women literally took on Churches which dominated society forever and won because the churches have to admit women are a thing, even though they are second class.

If women exist they can fight back, and WIN. It has happened before. It is happening here on Terf Island bit by bit.

This is a good explanation.

I think quiet pushback against the old sexism is in our bones. It's not right, but women have had to do this forever. We passed it down to our daughters.

Sexism 2.0 is like living in a totalitarian regime. Something the women of the UK have less experience of. I'm told, by friends who grew up in actual totalitarianism, that in some ways this is worse, because at least they had free speech within the home. Sexism 2.0 grooms your daughters that your free speech means you wish them dead.

Neither old school or new school sexism can conceive of the actual emancipation of women. See how each side threatens women with the worst of the other side. Their only world views consist of women being owned by either one set of men, or the other. Like two grossly entitled children arguing over a toy.

Zonder · 13/02/2026 09:17

oldtiredcyclist · 13/02/2026 08:18

What are your views on the Democrats trying to ruin sports for young girls and women in the USA? What are your views on Bill Clinton and high profile Democrats, taking dozens of trips on Epstein's private jet. the so called "Lolita Express"?

My view is that you've descended to whataboutery.

WorriedMutha · 13/02/2026 09:12

Is there any evidence of a backlash in Canada since the shooting. This was a small town with a few thousand residents so everyone must know him and his history. Any chance of it breaking the silence/forcing a debate.

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2026 08:57

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 12/02/2026 18:57

I think this too, but I also think after the uproar last year in regards to BBC reporting on 'birthing people' they are in a very precarious spot as they lost so many gender critical viewers. They'll likely be caught between a rock and a hard place as a captured institution that must appease the majority in order to stay relevant/in business.

It will.also follow what I would guess is a silence in Canadian media reports as they process and try to work out how to report without damage to current political orthodoxy.

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