Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

And in a dress, no less.

When I read it on the Beeb, I immediately thought it was worded very carefully.
Agreed. Especially since only last night they were reporting on the outcome of a case which "prompted changes to [UK] guidance on reporting ... status of people arrested and charged".

I'm no great fan of the BBC but they have to be careful about overriding the wording that the locals are giving them.

There needs to be an urgent u turn and people identifying as trans should be put back in the suffering with a mental illness’ box. It’s not a single diagnosis, there seem to be multiple mental health issues which are being physically expressed through identifying as trans. It might actually get these kids the help they need before they either hurt themselves or other people.

Exactly, the number of women who’ve committed these mass shootings is tiny, and a significant proportion of them are trans identified females.

They can’t acknowledge there’s a problem or the whole house of cards comes down.

This incidentally is the same area that a number of high profiles trans people are from - ie Jonathan Yaniv. Jette Knox and Veronica Ivy nearby as well. The PM of Canada has a trans child of course.

For those saying females never do this - it's rare but let's not forget Audrey Hale or that a young girl was convicted last year just before she shot up a school in Edinburgh. Both the girls of course were on testosterone

A seventeen-year old boy isn’t a woman. Why aren’t they saying girl, if they must lie about sex?

The BBC is still reporting 'female'.

It's been at least an hour and a half since the killer's family confirmed the young man is the killer

Women make up 50% of the population. Transwomen less than 0.5% of the population, yet without reading a word of the story, I knew that this would be a male type woman.

When will the trans community start acknowledging the real problems they have in their community? They have gladly been lumped in with perverts, abusers and severely mentally ill men, yet they tirelessly campaign on the basis that these people are women and that we should accept them as such. Tragic incidents like this keep showing how batshit this position is, but I have never heard a single one of them acknowledge these fundamental issues.

Fucking BBC.

How many trans school shooters is that now?

IMO another key driver of this is and the instability of the trans population in general is the message they are getting from their supposed "allies".

They are told that anyone who doesnt fully accept their new identity & pronouns, or anyone who doesnt fully believe in gender ideology, is motivated by transphobia - i.e. hatred. They are told that they are not "safe" around such people. Imagine growing up being told half the people you know and half people you meet for the rest of your life already hate you and want you harmed.

If stating the sex is likely to cause confusion why not just not state it?

You could even mention that the person is transgender, though acknowledging that would doubtless be seen as horribly bigoted by many.

Be interesting to see the coverage from Canadian media once the ID is officially confirmed.

Hard to claim that the most captured country in the world has been persecuting this poor Most Vulnerable Minority(TM).

Totally.

A man in trousers with short hair!

Can you imagine the BBC saying a mass shooting had been carried out by 'a man in trousers'?

When they said on the news this morning that it was "a female in a dress with brown hair" I did think that was odd. Unusual for a school shooting to be carried out by a woman and odd description. I did wonder if maybe the killer was trans.

The media will be stuck because if they report it is a “woman” they’ll just highlight it more because no one will believe it.

My teen, very woke, dd said, 'No way a woman would do this'. Turns out she was right.

Warning people in an active shooting situation that a dangerous person is 'female' when they are clearly not is negligence in my opinion. What if there were visitors to the town who didn't know who all the transgender people were? Infuriating. Canada is in an idiotic place at the moment.

Not our crimes!!

Absolutely spot on.

I know. 😔

I know what you mean. I have had my teen tell me their friend is absolutely male when she is a barely 5 foot teenaged girl who will never pass as male.

I think there is an argument to say “report says dress, long hair, girl?, run" or to be honest and say male shooter who has transgender identity, wearing a dress with long hair. And if it is a past student or current student, add that status as well so that the children and teachers involved know not to discount any person!

I now feel I cannot trust the ABC.

It has not been possible to trust the ABC for some considerable time.

Male will do. Just make. there is no other kind of make than a make.