Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

It was so obviously a male. What pisses me off is the (predictable) Canadian authorities not identifying the suspect’s gender while they’re busy handwringing about the murderous bastard’s pronouns and how they can best downplay the fact he’s trans - rather than concentrating on the young people killed and injured.

They fucking know who he is - name him and stop this pathetic crap about a ‘female in a dress’!

It does in society. Many Canadians identify with Americans, they have the exact same culture and societal values of freedom, patriotism and entitlement to bear arms. They pledge allegiance to the American flag, they celebrate the 4th of July. Even if legally they separated from America or are not part of America yet, in my eyes they are one and the same.

Always this. Sexualised girl-children with huge eyes (and often big other body parts). The reality is inevitably somewhat....different.

No, it doesn't apply. Canada is not legally America.

Canada, not USA

I think most Canadians would disagree with that.

The second amendment still applies. Canada is culturally and socially America in every way

That's the fetish showing itself.
They don't just want to be a 'woman', they want to be a cute anime UwU girl.

Yes. Maybe there really are 72 genders after all. We'll add rapist gender and gunperson gender to the list.

And just listened to NPR report about the woman shooter in Canada. Fucks sake.

It's all about fakeness, isn't it?

This was in Canada, not the USA.

In Ireland, when that Gabriel Alejandro Gentile (changed his name to Barbie Kardashian) was on the loose, the Gardaí (Irish police) put out a warning notice about a ‘teenage girl’ who was dangerous.

He has hurt women, not only threatened to torture his mother to death, nearly tore the eyelids off a social worker in a car, and threatened to rape a woman so badly that she would never be able to have children. Amongst many other things. I think he’s been let loose again, after terrorising women who were locked up with him.

Like "rapist" gender, aye?

Gender ideology and the second amendment are a horrible horrible mix
So sad

Obviously the UK isn’t perfect but I’m SO glad lunatics with mental health issues don’t have access to guns in this country. Who on Earth would think that that is a good idea?

By the way WHAT is it about Animé picture profiles with these maniacs

The guidance even says that it may be illegal to have a friend to stay, if the friend treats you to a meal out to say thank you.

A thousand yeses.

She should look at the detail of the Short Term Lets legislation. House swopping for holidays is illegal too. You have to apply for a licence every 3 years, involving jumping through lots of onerous and expensive hoops as well as paying several hundred pounds for the application. And you have to grant your local council permission to enter your property at any time. The council can also terminate your licence for no reason at any time.

Boston Globe is currently reporting the shooter as "a woman" and "female"

what a time to be alive.

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Thanks. I've read it. :(

It's the theft of the word "female" I just can't accept. I find it telling that there's never been the slightest acknowledgement of the immense concession that giving a subset of males the word "woman" involved (not that women were ever asked). It's acceding to our redefinition - in line with their (somewhat - immeasurably, in some cases - sexist) values and standards. I mean, I know we all know this, but I still find it hard to believe it's happened. And at least the adjective "trans" mitigated this. But then we had the inevitable slippage: transwoman > trans woman > woman > female. So "female"'s unforgivable to me. It leaves us with nothing, and it misrepresents the reality we all live and see, every single day.

In cases like this, it's distorting language to reconstruct reality in line with the murderer's self-perception - and this means implicitly absorbing all his victims, the fearful locals looking out for the wrong person (were older people less au fait with gender identity theory left proportionately more vulnerable because of this?), readers globally and every woman everywhere into his subjective framing of the world, regardless of their own. So after taking his victims' lives, he's given the power to subsume their identities, too - any females among them? well, according to the words used, they were "like him", and shared something fundamental with him. And those readers not au fait with this alternative reality (whole nations, cultures, demographics)? Excluded from fully understanding the truth of what happened - and implicitly posited as deserving of their own lack of understanding, or as irrelevant, even, because they're not OTRSOH: their own values are implicitly secondary to ours - secondary to his. It's unconscionable, and astonishingly Orwellian.

Distorting the word "female" leaves a fundamental part of human experience - half of humanity - undefined and unsayable. It shatters our shared understanding - and social cohesion. We need it!

As long as the Canadian authorities are prepared to misuse it in this way, I kind of agree that the BBC are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I too really resent their use of "gender" in place of "sex" - they're well bloody aware of the difference, and that everything hinges on it... but a more accurate '“That alert described a "female in a dress with brown hair" - but the person's name or gender sex are yet to be publicly released”* *wouldn't have been far from yelling Liar, liar! at the Canadian authorities. I still think there were ways to make it clearer, though, eg. “That alert described a "female in a dress with brown hair" - but there appears to remain some uncertainty surrounding the offender's status and identity.

I do feel kind of bad of theorising like this - my heart goes out to the victims, and speculation about this again detracts from the focus on them... but I think it's so, so important to discuss the implications of prioritising his identity above all else. They're huge. We've really got ourselves into an impossible mess with this. Never mind Orwell, it's the stuff of Swiftian satire.

I hate the way trans identity distracts from the fact it's yet another violent male shooter.