Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

What about women dying for years and years due to the unavailability of abortion? The abuses of the Catholic Church against women and children, with the full complicity of the state? Women enslaved and their children snatched from them in Magdalen laundries?

They need to stop referring to him as her . It’s disgusting . He was a he end off. It’s just been updated that the little girl that was shot won’t make it through the night. Funny how most of the victims he shot were female. Did it make him feel big and brave to target women and girls

The Canadian based reporter would probably get banged up for using the “wrong” pronouns! Although, let’s face it, this undoubtedly liberal reporter is likely to buy into the trans narrative. I don’t think the Canadians have had the awakening that TERF Island has.

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I'm getting the impression you think I'm defending him. I'm just stating what was said in the press conference and have made it clear that bullying is absolutely no excuse.

Absolutely @Playingvideogames absobloodylutely - this times 1000

Why the insistence on referring to a killer as they wished or chose to identify?
The emphasis is on the wrong person there. Why isn't there was more emphasis on the victims for goodness sake!
Something has to change

Well, the Magdalene laundries for a start.

Who knew that giving angry lonely young men a victimhood category that they can opt into and then telling them constantly that the world hates them and wants them dead would cause any problems?

Being trans has changed a lot from 2010 onwards. It's become a lot more politicised with activist groups openly calling for violence. There's now an ideology around it, and it's this that I think is leading to the violence.

BBC News at 10 using male pronouns but saying “he” “transitioned to a female”. No. Born a male and always a male. BBC still have not learned that nobody is buying this shit.

Guardian are using ‘she’.

Ugh, who cares. I was bullied, I didn’t shoot anybody. This is male violence, dressed up as some kind of vulnerability to make the trans aspect more palatable.

Yes. And to add, gender identity being considered first rather than treatment of comorbidity mental health issues.

He started to "transition" around age 14 and dropped out of school so the question was asked if he dropped out due to bullying. Scraping the barrel of excuses for him in my opinion.

Weird reporting on BBC News at 10. Canadian reporter referring to the shooter as “her”. Clive Myrie saying “he”.

He shot and killed 12 and 13 year old boys and girls. How much ‘bullying’ can they do to a 17 year old male who would be much bigger and feel much older than them?

It’s highly relevant.

1. It proves, yet again, that transwomen follow the same offending patterns as any other male. They’re no less risky
2. In fact, the opposite appears to be true. They’re over represented in sex offending and
3. Now there appears to be an overrepresentation in spree killing, which is such a niche crime area that it very rarely happens. So when you have multiple trans spree killers, it would be prudent to investigate why
4. Finally because we urgently need to find out whether the experimental hormones they’re hopped up on is feeding aggression or homicidal/suicidal tendencies

This is no different to safeguarding when it comes to any form of mental illness.

Questions being asked at the press conference regarding potential bullying when he started to "transition".

So already the TRA excuses and blaming anyone but the scumbag murderer are starting, absolutely disgusting.

No one does, that headline below with woman is terrible.

Amid questions over how Van Rootselaar was described in alerts, McDonald said police “identified the suspect as they chose to be identified” in public and in social media.
“I can say that Jesse was born as a biological male who, approximately six years ago, began to transition to female and identified as female, both socially and publicly,” he said.

So now how a mass murderer ‘chooses to identify’ takes precedence over giving factual information about their identity to help people avoid being shot.

Says it all really.

What is the significance of his being trans in relation to the crime?

I guess in terms of potential causality but then trans is so confounded with other factors that sorting that out is going to be difficult.

Is there any good data or reviews on the association between violence and kids who have been through the various stages of transition, if you'll forgive my use of the word?

Der Spiegel is also using female versions of words as well throughout their article about the shooting like "Schützin" and "Täterin"

What is the point of BBC Verify then?

But still refers to 'her' mother.

Rubbish. “Social media reports are claiming that the perpetrator may have been born male, but the BBC has not yet been able to verify this.”

The BBC used to report news. That the Canadian authorities are calling a shooter female but social media is reporting them as male is, in a normal world, news. Sex is not actually that difficult to determine; that there was even the slightest disagreement between the authorities and social media was a massive red flag.

And even if the shooter had turned out to be female, it would still have been a story - one about the unreliability of social media, but still an important story.

Responsible reporting is just another way of saying ‘we’re not going to tell you what actually happened, because we don’t like what actually happened.’

It is worth having a look at Seen in Journalism's coverage of the last 12 hours, on X. They compare and contrast a variety of news channels. BBC could have done better imho. Should definitely have said sex instead of gender