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Trans patient records medical team during cancer surgery

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junipery · 10/02/2026 14:28

www.nytimes.com/2025/12/01/nyregion/transgender-patient-records-during-cancer-surgery.html?smtyp=cur&utm_social_post_id=611783878&utm_social_handle_id=5281959998&smid=fb-nytimes

https://archive.ph/z8uok

Has this been shared? These pieces always reveal so much.

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WouldYouLikeSomeRibena · 11/02/2026 06:33

viques · 11/02/2026 00:39

I think the saddest part of this story is the part when he writes about how confused the hospital staff were when they saw the M in his notes ”I look the way I look, and sound the way I sound” but , according to Jennifer, the medical staff were perplexed by the ‘dissonance’ between what they saw and heard and the M in his records.

Oh dear. How confused and delusional can you get. They knew, even those of us with no medical training know. The M was no surprise at all.

The only reason anyone would have been surprised to see he’s registered as Male on his medical records is because they would be wondering why he hasn’t made enough of a song and dance to get them changed to Female.

He completely wasted money on “feminisation surgeries” and what was the point anyway when he still has a cock and balls?! I wonder why he didn’t use the money to get rid of them first as surely if you are feeling dhysphoria thinking you should be the opposite sex then it must be logical to assume you would want the most male part of your anatomy removed?!

Helleofabore · 11/02/2026 05:29

“I'm sure though that no one here would be bothered if their medical information was advertised outside of the theatre.”

If a patient in a hospital is bothered that other medical staff who have a direct duty of care for that patient outside of theatre know that patient’s sex category, I think they need some mental health support.

No! I am not bothered that medical staff outside of an operating theatre staff understand that I am female. It is the foundation for them providing me with the accurate medical diagnosis and care I need.

But please do continue to try and make the point that a group of people should be allowed to receive substandard care because they wish their medical records to contain false information. Not only substandard care, but then increasing risk of negative outcomes for staff involved and potentially wasting medical resources . I am interested to know why this should be allowed to happen? Please explain more.

Shedmistress · 11/02/2026 05:19

Quick look a squirrel.

TheToothFairy999 · 11/02/2026 05:18

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/02/2026 18:29

Trans women’s pants cannot catch fire as they already caught fire and burned to a crisp years back.

🤣

99bottlesofkombucha · 11/02/2026 05:16

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youre going to have to explain in what way hipaa was breached or the Joan rivers story is relevant. The staff were not taking selfies and the staff were not discussing his appearance beyond the immediately relevant aspect of how they clearly denoted sex, and that is important to be correct on that in the records. There is no indication whatsoever the staff have released his medical data into the public domain. You appear to have been imagining quite a lot.

Helleofabore · 11/02/2026 05:11

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Firstly, medical staff discussing whether a patient is male or female is highly relevant to the care they receive. So medical staff discussing sex category of a patient doesn’t breach patient privacy.

And this man is the person who has exposed his medical records to the public. Did you not read the article? Or did you just want to denigrate women again and took this thread as yet another opportunity ?

NumbersGuy · 11/02/2026 05:05

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Helleofabore · 11/02/2026 05:00

RedToothBrush · 10/02/2026 15:26

Yep. It's not about politeness or health care. It's about controlling others.

It really seems to be.

The staff were spot on in that he needs to have his sex clearly marked male. And then the record needs to list all the medical treatment he has had.

What surprises me is that someone would undertake purely elective surgery of the duration of having the face peeled back, bone layers removed and artificial shapers inserted while recovering still from other major medical treatments. Just the anaesthesia is an added risk. But this man does seem to be keen on controlling how other’s perceive him and their reaction to him.

viques · 11/02/2026 00:39

I think the saddest part of this story is the part when he writes about how confused the hospital staff were when they saw the M in his notes ”I look the way I look, and sound the way I sound” but , according to Jennifer, the medical staff were perplexed by the ‘dissonance’ between what they saw and heard and the M in his records.

Oh dear. How confused and delusional can you get. They knew, even those of us with no medical training know. The M was no surprise at all.

HildegardP · 11/02/2026 00:20

@ProfessorBinturong True, oestrogen, insulin, liver & pancreas, that Spaghetti Junction of "it's different for girls". From appropriately hazy recollection, most anaesthetics are mostly metabolised by the liver - the words "P-450 cytochromes" spring to mind but I've forgotten what they mean & the dog is insistent that her bedtime walk is overdue so no time to find out!

ProfessorBinturong · 11/02/2026 00:11

A lot of drugs are processed at different rates by male and female livers, and filtered at different rates by male and female kidneys. I can't remember if anaesthetics are among the ones affected, but I'd be a little surprised if they aren't.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 10/02/2026 23:53

HildegardP · 10/02/2026 23:51

It's not just weight, it's hormones. Amng other things, women respond differently to the hypnotics & are more likely to regain a level of consciousness during surgery (the drugs that immobilise you are not the same ones that make you sleepy).
On the upside, we're faster to come round in Recovery.
Now if miladdo there had been castrated, he might be closer to a female response because the effect disparity seems to rely on testosterone but we don't know enough to know if circulating T on the day of surgery is the kicker or whether it's circulating T+androgenised body, or androgenised body alone/ mainly.

Just think of the research opportunities missed by anaesthetists in gender surgeries all because they've been indoctrinated that TWAW & TMAM.

Edited for dyslexia, some may remain

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Plus muscle : fat ratio is going to be different - would that affect drug metabolism?

HildegardP · 10/02/2026 23:51

LeftBoobGoneRogue · 10/02/2026 23:16

@AstonScrapingsNameChange
I had surgery last year and was asked my weight by the anaesthetist.

It's not just weight, it's hormones. Amng other things, women respond differently to the hypnotics & are more likely to regain a level of consciousness during surgery (the drugs that immobilise you are not the same ones that make you sleepy).
On the upside, we're faster to come round in Recovery.
Now if miladdo there had been castrated, he might be closer to a female response because the effect disparity seems to rely on testosterone but we don't know enough to know if circulating T on the day of surgery is the kicker or whether it's circulating T+androgenised body, or androgenised body alone/ mainly.

Just think of the research opportunities missed by anaesthetists in gender surgeries all because they've been indoctrinated that TWAW & TMAM.

Edited for dyslexia, some may remain

CheeseChamp · 10/02/2026 23:35

Reads to me the phone wasn't in surgery, it was left with some administration or perhaps nursing staff in another area, who had the conversation about his medical records and gossipped a bit about the trans phenomenon and were rightly trying to work out how to avoid treating a patient incorrectly by thinking they were female.

OnTheBoardwalk · 10/02/2026 23:24

solerolover · 10/02/2026 15:14

In the bag for his belongings that the hospital provided him with.

They don’t take the bag with your belongings, shoes, phone etc into the sterile theatre with you

they take it down to the recovery ward

CheeseChamp · 10/02/2026 23:22

Surgeons can say whatever the fuck they want about me during the process of saving my life if it helps them get through their day

LeftBoobGoneRogue · 10/02/2026 23:16

@AstonScrapingsNameChange
I had surgery last year and was asked my weight by the anaesthetist.

AMansAManForAllThat · 10/02/2026 23:12

Maybe belongings are put into a sterile bag, and are then ok?

I think routine recording of surgery is not a bad idea. I think it’s wiser not to say things over an unconscious person that you wouldn’t say if they were awake. Certainly when I’ve visited very ill people who appeared unconscious, I have not discussed them in terms I’d not use to their face. Unlike my great aunts who were planning my grandad’s funeral, while he was alive in the bed in front of them.

However every other element of that story was madness. Want good cancer treatment? Give the medics the information they needed- including what anatomy you expect them to operate on. I mean, it isn’t the same, basically.

Shakethedisease · 10/02/2026 22:46

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 10/02/2026 22:19

Its not usual to take your belongings into theatre - infection risk and all that. Can't see why the hospital would allow a minging germ ridden phone, of all things! Weird.

I wasn't even allowed my teddy bear - he got left in the anaesthetic room and put on the trolley with me en route to recovery, apparently.

I've been to theatre numerous times and never once have I taken a bag of stuff in with me. Not allowed. Belongings stay on the ward. Most odd.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 10/02/2026 22:26

BiologicalRobot · 10/02/2026 21:30

The year before, during an endoscope exam of her rectum and colon, the colorectal surgeon kept referring to Ms. Capasso as “he” when mentioning her to other medical workers,

I wonder why 🤔 Nope, not got the foggiest.

Medical journals and research articles have emphasized that doctors should be fully aware of the anatomy of their transgender patients — as well as the sex they were assigned at birth — in order to screen for diseases such as cancer and to properly interpret lab results.
So why are hospitals and GPs going against this advice? Don't they normally follow it for other things?

I missed this part.

There is no way that someone shoving an endoscope up your arse would miss the fact that you've got a nutsack.

The fact that this individual is so deluded that he was shocked that his perineum didnt 'pass' is just...astounding.

Plus women and men require different doses for anaesthesia. I'm surprised they managed to knock him out giving him a woman's dose (maybe it's calculated on weight?)

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 10/02/2026 22:19

solerolover · 10/02/2026 15:14

In the bag for his belongings that the hospital provided him with.

Its not usual to take your belongings into theatre - infection risk and all that. Can't see why the hospital would allow a minging germ ridden phone, of all things! Weird.

I wasn't even allowed my teddy bear - he got left in the anaesthetic room and put on the trolley with me en route to recovery, apparently.

Scaryscarytimes · 10/02/2026 22:10

He put the phone, recording, in his bag in the hope that the staff would take the bag into the operating theatre, which they did. I'm a little surprised that the staff were so polite about the trans stuff during the operation. I'd have said that it was close to exemplary.

HildegardP · 10/02/2026 21:53

solerolover · 10/02/2026 15:14

In the bag for his belongings that the hospital provided him with.

Patients are allowed to take bags of unsterilised posessions into theatre to have open lung surgery?
What a filthy notion.

dreichluver · 10/02/2026 21:32

junipery · 10/02/2026 19:59

I’m probably giving the NYT too much credit but I did wonder if they were giving him enough rope to hang himself here.

I sincerely doubt it. Unfortunately.

BiologicalRobot · 10/02/2026 21:30

The year before, during an endoscope exam of her rectum and colon, the colorectal surgeon kept referring to Ms. Capasso as “he” when mentioning her to other medical workers,

I wonder why 🤔 Nope, not got the foggiest.

Medical journals and research articles have emphasized that doctors should be fully aware of the anatomy of their transgender patients — as well as the sex they were assigned at birth — in order to screen for diseases such as cancer and to properly interpret lab results.
So why are hospitals and GPs going against this advice? Don't they normally follow it for other things?

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