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LGBT month - This is a weird event to have during work time...

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LGBTmonth · 09/02/2026 12:07

Our work LGBT Network has invited us all to a talk during most people's working time (2-3pm on a Monday) that involves "A reflection on transgender and intersex inclusive anatomy education initiatives... including an EDI Biomedical Sciences project using 3D printing and wax modelling to represent transgender, intersex and cisgender perineal anatomy."

This is an event for a general audience. Most people where I work, do not work in anatomy or even in medicine, although a small minority of people do.

In fact, in the teams group where I saw it advertised, no one would be working in the medical field at all.

A web page with a list of events, this one included, has been linked to by our director in a regular email he sends to our department along with a recommendation to attend some of the events.

I know it's optional to attend but it just feels very odd to have this suggested as something I should be spending my working time on when it's completely unrelated to my work.

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TWETMIRF · 13/03/2026 21:29

The word cis annoys me for many reasons but one of them is that in Latin, c was pronounced as a k so should be kiss, not siss

Shedmistress · 13/03/2026 09:36

DrBlackbird · 13/03/2026 09:17

Not even going to discuss the term ‘cis’.

But intersex was used by physicians and others many decades ago when there was misunderstanding, inappropriate surgeries, medical arrogance and even cases of fraud. That term, however, came to be correctly seen as highly stigmatising, wrong and confusing (Lee et al 2006).

The medical profession replaced that term in medical lexicon with the more appropriate and correct term DSD. Originally this acronym referenced the term ‘Disorders of Sexual Development’ - referencing the problem with sex characteristics - but for the last decade it was changed to ‘Differences of Sexual Development’ as ‘disorders’ was also stigmatising.

You ought to be aware that many individuals and advocacy groups are highly offended by the term intersex, which denies them a sex. And It is odd that you are claiming it’s a medical term if you’re in a related medical field. You need to be better informed about the correct medical terminology.

Not even going to discuss the term ‘cis’.

The term 'CIS' is a joke used by the trans community, it comes from 'cissy porn' and I remember when they discovered that it also means 'on the same side of' in chemistry and then they flooded the internet with 'it just means 'on the same side of'' and it became a 'thing'.

It is not a thing. It never was a thing. It is a duper's delight term that people who do not know the history keep using.

DrBlackbird · 13/03/2026 09:17

OneElatedLimeBalonz · 12/03/2026 18:10

Hi, intersex and cis are medical terms.

Not even going to discuss the term ‘cis’.

But intersex was used by physicians and others many decades ago when there was misunderstanding, inappropriate surgeries, medical arrogance and even cases of fraud. That term, however, came to be correctly seen as highly stigmatising, wrong and confusing (Lee et al 2006).

The medical profession replaced that term in medical lexicon with the more appropriate and correct term DSD. Originally this acronym referenced the term ‘Disorders of Sexual Development’ - referencing the problem with sex characteristics - but for the last decade it was changed to ‘Differences of Sexual Development’ as ‘disorders’ was also stigmatising.

You ought to be aware that many individuals and advocacy groups are highly offended by the term intersex, which denies them a sex. And It is odd that you are claiming it’s a medical term if you’re in a related medical field. You need to be better informed about the correct medical terminology.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 13/03/2026 08:08

OneElatedLimeBalonz · 12/03/2026 18:10

Hi, intersex and cis are medical terms.

Hi, no they’re not.

oldtiredcyclist · 13/03/2026 06:59

OneElatedLimeBalonz · 12/03/2026 18:10

Hi, intersex and cis are medical terms.

Only in the minds of deluded people.

TwattingDog · 12/03/2026 18:24

OneElatedLimeBalonz · 12/03/2026 18:10

Hi, intersex and cis are medical terms.

Hi, no they aren't.

HTH.

ConstanzeMozart · 12/03/2026 18:13

OneElatedLimeBalonz · 12/03/2026 18:10

Hi, intersex and cis are medical terms.

'Hi'

'intersex' is considered offensive by many people with DSDs. As far as I understand (but there are more knowledgeable people on here, who can correct me), it's not a widely used term in the scientific/medical context.
'cis' is not a medical term.

OneElatedLimeBalonz · 12/03/2026 18:10

ConstanzeMozart · 09/02/2026 12:18

it sounds like it's not a mainstream medical opinion being put forward at all - 'intersex' and 'cis' are not proper medical terms, are they?
Yes, this. It's genuinely worrying.

Hi, intersex and cis are medical terms.

OneElatedLimeBalonz · 12/03/2026 18:08

MarieDeGournay · 09/02/2026 13:33

The more I think about this [which unfortunately I have been doing, even during lunchConfused] OP, the more I think that it is not just irrelevant, creepy and gross, but completely and totally unacceptable in the workplace.

As one of the L in LGBT+, I object strongly to anybody's perinea being the focus of an event which allegedly 'celebrates' us.

Clearly, it is all to do with the T not the LGB, so from my LGB✂T point of view, it has feck-all to do with most of the LGBT+ 'community'.

The motivation of the person presenting this event needs to be interrogated, e.g. are they professionally qualified to lecture on human anatomy?

But even if they are, this is a really gratuitously disturbing thing to present even as an option to a workforce.

Hi, the person giving this talk is qualified to teach anatomy. They are an anatomy teacher and researcher with years of experience, and this is a relevant topic to those in the medial sciences. Perhaps the issue is with the audience this was chosen to be advertised to, rather than the talk itself.

ConstanzeMozart · 12/03/2026 18:06

OneElatedLimeBalonz · 12/03/2026 18:04

Hi, this person is an anatomist doing anatomy research, so they are not "looking at genitals" for the sake of it, it is related to their work.

It's not related to everyone in the company's work, though, is it.

OneElatedLimeBalonz · 12/03/2026 18:04

Hi, this person is an anatomist doing anatomy research, so they are not "looking at genitals" for the sake of it, it is related to their work.

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 17/02/2026 14:46

Or thinks I've got a a 3D printer and just had a great idea...

Shedmistress · 17/02/2026 13:22

What sort of bloke sits down and gets a range of cartoonish drawings of genitalia to show to children that is so bad that it has to be put under peek a boo flaps?

One that is not naive that's for sure.

ConstanzeMozart · 17/02/2026 10:24

Seriestwo · 17/02/2026 09:35

This talk sounds like a cluster of symptoms this academic is struggling with. It should not be indulged, I’d encourage a GP visit and occupational health review.

Grin Grin Grin

Seriestwo · 17/02/2026 09:35

This talk sounds like a cluster of symptoms this academic is struggling with. It should not be indulged, I’d encourage a GP visit and occupational health review.

viques · 17/02/2026 09:26

The only positive thing about people being more confident about the anatomy of human genitalia is that those people who disparagingly refer to womens vaginas as a “front hole” will learn that we have THREE holes in our undercarriage. One for pee, one for sex and babies and one for poo. So a vagina is a middle hole thank you very much.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 16/02/2026 20:47

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EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 16/02/2026 20:07

I am quietly boggling at the less confident about female anatomy bit. I seem to recall that one of the things that Womens Lib advocated for back in the 70s was for women to be educated about their own bodies. Heck, I was given a book and speculum in the early 80s and have seen my own cervix.

I may not be up to medical textbook standard but I bet I am not the only woman who could make a good start on the basics without using silly words and mumbling, I'd like a job giving stern looks to medical students while they got to grips with the details.

This needs bloody well sorting out. Humph.
Fucked up priorities abounding.

Datun · 16/02/2026 19:39

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This.

Especially:

'I am a random adult with pictures of genetalia, hoping to get to show them to your child'

Obviously, it does matter if it's intentional, or naivety, and frankly, I'd suspect the former. But either way, it's unacceptable due to being a massive safeguarding breach.

LGBTmonth · 16/02/2026 18:25

That's interesting thank you. I hadn't heard of her. Depressing that its is still happening.

I read invisible women, so I'm aware of some of the gaps in terms of medical knowledge regarding female bodies but I didn't realise it went so far to even the really basic stuff like this.

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AnSolas · 16/02/2026 17:38

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 16/02/2026 17:33

Jessica Ann Pin. She’s still researching and lobbying.

Thanks
She was caught up in the whole TRA attacks as she was advocating for women. As well as speaking out on the harm an uneducated medic can do during surgery.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 16/02/2026 17:33

AnSolas · 16/02/2026 17:25

They "got around this" by covering the illustrations with paper flaps and then asking parents for consent before showing them to children.

Thats the right message to send
Peek-a-boo secrets

they were not experts at sex education

He still has not got a fuckin clue if he cant work out that the parents opted to a peek-a-boo event may be a concern as its the adult bringing their a child to a public place to look at genitalia with strangers.....

If he is going to be educating HCP he should learn the basics of safeguarding children.

changes made to an anatomy textbook but was dismayed it was in a particular section rather than used throughout the book....
it came out that educators were less confident teaching female anatomy

I had seen this point on Twitter (2018ish?) woman who was harmed by a surgery found that medical text used had no proper diagrams of female anatomy re shapes or locations the way male anatomy had. That was both basic and detailed text so teaching tools they were basically crap. She was lobbying medical text book producers and major teaching hospitals and was trying to get doctors to co-author papers to create a knowledge bank.

Jessica Ann Pin. She’s still researching and lobbying.

ConstanzeMozart · 16/02/2026 17:30

FarriersGirl · 16/02/2026 17:20

Whilst I could just about see that preparing a presentation of this nature as part of a serious academic study would be OK, its presentation to a much wider adult audience comes across as highly manipulative/borderline abusive. As for showing anything of this nature to children, even with parental consent, is deeply concerning. I would be wondering what is on the hard drive of anyone who thinks this is acceptable.

Agree. I'd put in a serious complaint, majoring on safeguarding.

AnSolas · 16/02/2026 17:25

They "got around this" by covering the illustrations with paper flaps and then asking parents for consent before showing them to children.

Thats the right message to send
Peek-a-boo secrets

they were not experts at sex education

He still has not got a fuckin clue if he cant work out that the parents opted to a peek-a-boo event may be a concern as its the adult bringing their a child to a public place to look at genitalia with strangers.....

If he is going to be educating HCP he should learn the basics of safeguarding children.

changes made to an anatomy textbook but was dismayed it was in a particular section rather than used throughout the book....
it came out that educators were less confident teaching female anatomy

I had seen this point on Twitter (2018ish?) woman who was harmed by a surgery found that medical text used had no proper diagrams of female anatomy re shapes or locations the way male anatomy had. That was both basic and detailed text so teaching tools they were basically crap. She was lobbying medical text book producers and major teaching hospitals and was trying to get doctors to co-author papers to create a knowledge bank.

FarriersGirl · 16/02/2026 17:20

Whilst I could just about see that preparing a presentation of this nature as part of a serious academic study would be OK, its presentation to a much wider adult audience comes across as highly manipulative/borderline abusive. As for showing anything of this nature to children, even with parental consent, is deeply concerning. I would be wondering what is on the hard drive of anyone who thinks this is acceptable.