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Fuck it. Who wants to recreate the Isle of the Amazons with me?

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TheABC · 07/02/2026 18:46

Alternately, I'm open to taking over a castle community. The French have a tradition know as Beguine Communities, where women could retreat into female only spaces without taking vows. After everything I've learned about the rape gangs, Epstein and the problems face Refuge for funding, I think we need something like that here. The Government at every layer has shown it does not care about women. We should stop demanding equality - they don't think us worthy of it. We need a matriachy example. Run by women, for women. Stop asking for scraps.

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/02/2026 16:45

I think dogs on one side and cats on another should be okay
But the cats will just roam everywhere and pay no attention to boundaries.

Cats are so like men in that sense.

cat fail GIF
SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 08/02/2026 16:37

I also used to be a professional dancer. I can run tribal dance classes too.

PriOn1 · 08/02/2026 16:37

It’s odd. I vaguely looked at becoming a nun after my marriage ended and all the children left home. Sadly, they didn’t want older nuns, perhaps because too many would go there with health problems to be looked after.

I have a strong recollection of being in church with my children, probably round 7, 5 and 6 months. A nun came in to talk about how tough it was being a nun. She had been to Rome and various other places as she studied theology and, my goodness did I envy her!

I’m in, by the way. If we want farm animals, I can probably look after them, thus earning my keep.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 08/02/2026 16:36

Screw that I’m not growing my own food. I’d rather have it shipped in.

I’d rather host yoga and wellness retreats for women on one side of the island at £5000 a head per week for 6 weeks a year and then use the money to fund my luxurious island lifestyle.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/02/2026 16:34

My badly-behaved male neutered cats.

They're packing their bags as I speak, and making vague promises to behave in the new space.
They're lying, naturally.

Fuck it. Who wants to recreate the Isle of the Amazons with me?
TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/02/2026 16:28

ProfessorBinturong · 08/02/2026 10:21

I'm reasonably competent at both growing and preserving fruit and vegetables.

I'm also quite good at chutney and jam.

Re @JoanOgden 's point:

I think neutered male cats are acceptable if well-behaved

I have yet to meet a well-behaved cat.

Male or female.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 08/02/2026 16:24

Sausagenbacon · 08/02/2026 16:18

As a historical point, monasteries had female servants to do their laundry 🧺 and scrub the floors.
They just weren’t allowed to stay overnight.
Cooking was a man’s job back then because too many women were tempted to poison the pease pudding.

I think you'll find that there were Lay Brothers who did those jobs. (though happy to be corrected)

Depends on the monastery I suppose. The different orders had different rules.

Sausagenbacon · 08/02/2026 16:18

As a historical point, monasteries had female servants to do their laundry 🧺 and scrub the floors.
They just weren’t allowed to stay overnight.
Cooking was a man’s job back then because too many women were tempted to poison the pease pudding.

I think you'll find that there were Lay Brothers who did those jobs. (though happy to be corrected)

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 08/02/2026 16:14

On trébuchets, I was a hamster human in one wheel of a double wheeled counter weight trebuchet. So I have experience. Just need another shorty to run in the other wheel and we can sink any boats coming to Amazon island.

Fuck it. Who wants to recreate the Isle of the Amazons with me?
MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 16:10

BiologicalRobot · 08/02/2026 15:29

Oh good grief no. Despite getting a B in English my brain fog reduces me to the level of an imbecile most days. Then autocorrect messes with the rest. Hello no should have been Hell no 🙄 That's why I don't visit the Bluestocking as I would be rocking in the corner surrounded by smart and funny women.

I know what you and Brefugee mean about the Bluestocking thread, it often travels at near the speed of light!
But it's very much travelling in whatever direction the last poster - no, not the bugler playing the Last Post😃- decides to take it in.
That's often frivolous, sometimes hilarious, and occasionally, when something serious happens, very supportive.

It's up to you, but I suggest you pop in, BiologicalRobot, and say 'Hey, anyone here ever fired a trebuchet? and watch while a whole conversation about siege weaponry develops😁

BiologicalRobot · 08/02/2026 15:33

Cooking was a man’s job back then because too many women were tempted to poison the pease pudding.
Shock

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 08/02/2026 15:30

MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 14:28

Speaking of canons - OK so it was cannons - I think monasteries and abbeys have shown that men can cope perfectly well on their own without women.
Cooking, washing, tidying, sweeping, caring for each other when sick, etc etc .

They just need us to give them the freedom to do all those things again....😄

As a historical point, monasteries had female servants to do their laundry 🧺 and scrub the floors.
They just weren’t allowed to stay overnight.
Cooking was a man’s job back then because too many women were tempted to poison the pease pudding.

BiologicalRobot · 08/02/2026 15:29

MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 14:20

I think the Bluestocking may be a bit of a blueprint <see what I did there?> for this island because it has a Pedantry Corner, and I get the impression that you'd feel right at home in a larger-scale one, BiologicalRobot😄

Spoken with admiration by a fellow-pedant ['trebuchet'😍]

Oh good grief no. Despite getting a B in English my brain fog reduces me to the level of an imbecile most days. Then autocorrect messes with the rest. Hello no should have been Hell no 🙄 That's why I don't visit the Bluestocking as I would be rocking in the corner surrounded by smart and funny women.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 08/02/2026 15:29

BiologicalRobot · 08/02/2026 11:13

I'm in. I'm also tall so can reach things up high. Maybe not so good on the heavy lifting by myself but have managed okay for 50+ years. Not sure what needs lifting that only a man can do that two women together can't Hmm Actually "my man" couldn't even lift a toddler, shopping bag or a laundry basket so now I'm wondering where Sugar gets his/her info from that men are indispensable in that department.

I get it from my life experience. I’m the size of a 10yr old boy and nothing is going to change that.

Brefugee · 08/02/2026 14:44

if i'm honest, i love the idea of the Bluestocking threads, but they move so fast and seem to have a core component, i feel like an intruder if i would post there.

I'm ok as long as i have my own living space to retreat to when i want, but loads of public spaces of varying size to socialise in. But then, i am a boarding school kid who was in the army, i'm fairly good at communal living.

ArabellaScott · 08/02/2026 14:36

Here I am.

t rex boat GIF by ViralHog
ArabellaScott · 08/02/2026 14:35

Swan paddleboats, actually. With drinksholders.

ArabellaScott · 08/02/2026 14:34

It can have fish in it. Paddleboarding is allowed. Also a floaty lilo with a drinksholder

ArabellaScott · 08/02/2026 14:33

MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 14:30

You're not thinking big enough, Arabella - BiologicalRobot has suggested shark-infested seas!

If its an island a moat would be strictly speaking redundant, but I still want one. With swans in it.

TheABC · 08/02/2026 14:33

ArabellaScott · 08/02/2026 14:26

I want a moat.

I need the laugh emoji back.

<Adds moat to the shopping list.>
Presumbly well stocked with fish? I reserve the right to paddleboard on it.

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RavelsDancer · 08/02/2026 14:31

No need to. So, so many young women (those without the asterisk) are going 4B these days, world-wide, therefore it is going to sort itself out. Nature appears to be coming to her senses, finally, after millennia. If I were not agnostic, I would venture that God has begun to listen.

Males and their handmaidens sense it too, make no mistake. Hence all the desperate videos and aggressive ads promoting motherhood in a creepy way.

Let Elon mass-produce some affordable, barely legal-looking, never aging sexbots for the male herd, so women can exist in peace elsewhere.

And most importantly: Please let scientists take up the ovum-to-ovum fertilisation research again, which they worked on decades ago. 🙏

Sausagenbacon · 08/02/2026 14:31

To be horribly pedantic, Beguinages are related more to Holland and Belgium. There was even one in Norwich, because of its links with those countries.
They are different from convents, for several reasons which i won't bore you with.
Boys could live their mothers in a beguinage until puberty.
The internal workings were governed by Grand Mistresses, who were elected.
But they had to have a male priest - part of the arrangement that prevented them from being classed as heretics.

I love Beguinages, and have visited as many as i can. But live in one? No chance, some women can be just as annoying as men.

MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 14:30

ArabellaScott · 08/02/2026 14:26

I want a moat.

You're not thinking big enough, Arabella - BiologicalRobot has suggested shark-infested seas!

MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 14:28

Speaking of canons - OK so it was cannons - I think monasteries and abbeys have shown that men can cope perfectly well on their own without women.
Cooking, washing, tidying, sweeping, caring for each other when sick, etc etc .

They just need us to give them the freedom to do all those things again....😄

ArabellaScott · 08/02/2026 14:26

I want a moat.