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Fuck it. Who wants to recreate the Isle of the Amazons with me?

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TheABC · 07/02/2026 18:46

Alternately, I'm open to taking over a castle community. The French have a tradition know as Beguine Communities, where women could retreat into female only spaces without taking vows. After everything I've learned about the rape gangs, Epstein and the problems face Refuge for funding, I think we need something like that here. The Government at every layer has shown it does not care about women. We should stop demanding equality - they don't think us worthy of it. We need a matriachy example. Run by women, for women. Stop asking for scraps.

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MarieDeGournay · 09/02/2026 15:52

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 09/02/2026 12:56

An almost-boy?

Sounds like my second ex-husband, who suddenly announced that he was gay after ten years of marriage to me, following which he had an affair with our male church organist.

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There is no appropriate emoji to react to that - it's kind-of funny in the context of almost- boy dogs, but it must have been very difficult for you and I hope it is OK for you to take about it now, so I went for the 'support' emoji.

Ileithyia, you are misgendering your dog😧
Almost-boys are more properly referred to as demi-boys, and have their own pride flag. No, really, they do!
Don't let your dog read this, they'll start demanding their own Pride Month😄

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 09/02/2026 12:56

Ileithyia · 09/02/2026 12:36

Can I bring my dog? He’s an almost-boy, does that count?

An almost-boy?

Sounds like my second ex-husband, who suddenly announced that he was gay after ten years of marriage to me, following which he had an affair with our male church organist.

Ileithyia · 09/02/2026 12:36

Can I bring my dog? He’s an almost-boy, does that count?

MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 23:21

BiologicalRobot · 08/02/2026 13:56

Hello no. Unless you actually meant enough sewing corners for those who want one. Words matter 😉

I think dogs on one side and cats on another should be okay with a third space for allergic/haters as I suspect this place is going to end up massive. We might need a whole country, preferably surrounded by shark infested waters, and protected by cannons. I've always wanted to fire one for some strange reason. That or a trebuchet.

Dammit, BiologicalRobot, now I've got it into my head that I have to make a model trebuchet. A working model trebuchet. And it's all your fault😠
😁

BeautifulBrackets · 08/02/2026 22:27

Y'know what? I'm sure that at least some of you have much nicer pads than I do, so when you all de-camp, just drop the keys off with me. I quite fancy a spot of house-sitting.

TheABC · 08/02/2026 21:35

Also, I'm with @CactusSwoonedEnding - we're not doing subsistence farming. I'm up for creating retreats, setting up microbreweries and building out businesses that don't sell your soul or require insane working hours.

Having said that, anyone who wants to rewild an acre or lay out a garden is welcome and will be held in awe by me. I can keep orchids and cacti alive, but that's it.

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TheABC · 08/02/2026 21:30

Floisme · 08/02/2026 16:58

My terms:
No cats
No countryside
No pilates or yoga
Decent coffee shop
Decent chocolate
I am allowed out for shopping and trips to my (male) hairdresser

Freedom is the point of this.

There's no "allowed out" to it. Anyone can go out: the trick is to get back in past the shark-infested waters, drunken paddleboarders, vicious geese and the trebuchet.

Also, if there is no coffee and chocolate, does it really qualify for civilisation?

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EdithStourton · 08/02/2026 20:14

ArabellaScott · 08/02/2026 19:26

I don't think anyone had mentioned sharks, tbh. I thiink I'd probably go with piranhas. Less drama, more efficient clean up.

We won't need either, with your armed pedalo - or fleet thereof - patrolling night and day.

Oh, hang on... piranhas for the clean-up.

Igmum · 08/02/2026 19:35

50Balesofgrey · 08/02/2026 18:24

I think boy cats, sans bollocks, should be allowed.

DBoyCat thanks you (and his manly bollocks are long gone)

MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 19:32

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/02/2026 19:14

Exactly.

So some of us will see cats, and some of us will not see cats.

Even though the place will be overrun with cats

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Cats make lousy construction workers!🙄
The Bluestocking can warmly recommend capybaras, all maintenance work is carried out to a high standard by 'Capability' Capybara and her team.

Fuck it. Who wants to recreate the Isle of the Amazons with me?
ProfessorBinturong · 08/02/2026 19:27

Growing fruit and veg doesn't have to mean subsistence farming. It can mean lounging on the terrace with a good book and leaning over to pick fresh grapes or figs as a snack, or a few tomatoes to have with lunch.

ArabellaScott · 08/02/2026 19:26

I don't think anyone had mentioned sharks, tbh. I thiink I'd probably go with piranhas. Less drama, more efficient clean up.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/02/2026 19:14

MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 19:06

Not a problem, CactusSwoonedEnding - if that's what you want, that's exactly what you'll have. Just don't ask how!
That's how fantasy works, innit?😄

Exactly.

So some of us will see cats, and some of us will not see cats.

Even though the place will be overrun with cats

Cat Hammer GIF
MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 19:06

CactusSwoonedEnding · 08/02/2026 18:30

Hang on. This thread has moved on significantly from where it was when I last had arsing-around-on-mumsnet time. I disagree with shark-infested moats and isolationism. I wasn't anticipating being on an island or reducing ourselves to self-sufficient subsistence-farming. I don't want us to have to build and run our own electricity plant, water treatment works etc so want to be connected to general Civilization, ideally somewhere within easy reach of a major city. I want to be able to go to the cinema and to the big touring Musical Theatre shows and art galleries and museums. Some members of the community may well be keeping on with careers that require interaction with the world, possibly customer visits etc, so commuting links need to be reasonable.

And yes cats are important.

Not a problem, CactusSwoonedEnding - if that's what you want, that's exactly what you'll have. Just don't ask how!
That's how fantasy works, innit?😄

MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 19:04

PriOn1 · 08/02/2026 16:37

It’s odd. I vaguely looked at becoming a nun after my marriage ended and all the children left home. Sadly, they didn’t want older nuns, perhaps because too many would go there with health problems to be looked after.

I have a strong recollection of being in church with my children, probably round 7, 5 and 6 months. A nun came in to talk about how tough it was being a nun. She had been to Rome and various other places as she studied theology and, my goodness did I envy her!

I’m in, by the way. If we want farm animals, I can probably look after them, thus earning my keep.

Having been to nun-run schools most of my school-life, we used to get visits from nuns trying to recruit us.

It was very tempting: there seemed to be a particular need for nuns in the USA for some reason, and they put on slide shows of all wonderful amenities that would be at our disposal - I vividly remember water-skiing being one of them.

It seemed like a lot of fun, but we had the feeling that it wouldn't all be fun and games. It was a teaching order, so we guessed that we'd probably end up having to teach classes full of the likes of us😧

Love your swan-mounted scythes ideas, Arabella😁

Magpiecomplex · 08/02/2026 18:40

MarieDeGournay · 08/02/2026 16:10

I know what you and Brefugee mean about the Bluestocking thread, it often travels at near the speed of light!
But it's very much travelling in whatever direction the last poster - no, not the bugler playing the Last Post😃- decides to take it in.
That's often frivolous, sometimes hilarious, and occasionally, when something serious happens, very supportive.

It's up to you, but I suggest you pop in, BiologicalRobot, and say 'Hey, anyone here ever fired a trebuchet? and watch while a whole conversation about siege weaponry develops😁

Sign me up for the trebuchet rota.

ArabellaScott · 08/02/2026 18:32

If I fit sycthes to the swan pedalo paddles I can whiz round the moat and do defense like a waterborne Boudicca.

CactusSwoonedEnding · 08/02/2026 18:30

Hang on. This thread has moved on significantly from where it was when I last had arsing-around-on-mumsnet time. I disagree with shark-infested moats and isolationism. I wasn't anticipating being on an island or reducing ourselves to self-sufficient subsistence-farming. I don't want us to have to build and run our own electricity plant, water treatment works etc so want to be connected to general Civilization, ideally somewhere within easy reach of a major city. I want to be able to go to the cinema and to the big touring Musical Theatre shows and art galleries and museums. Some members of the community may well be keeping on with careers that require interaction with the world, possibly customer visits etc, so commuting links need to be reasonable.

And yes cats are important.

50Balesofgrey · 08/02/2026 18:24

Igmum · 08/02/2026 09:55

I’m in. Will bring books, red wine and plenty of nice decaf coffee. I know DGirlCat is welcome, is it ok to bring DBoyCat?

Happy to join Cactus in the kitchen as long as I too can have a no-gardening pass before I accidentally uproot all of the first year’s crops.

I think boy cats, sans bollocks, should be allowed.

DrBlackbird · 08/02/2026 17:25

I’ve got a couple of female friends who’d love to join. No discernible hard skills but quite witty and enjoy a good conversation. Wait, one’s an excellent baker.

Rightsraptor · 08/02/2026 17:05

Missproportionate · 08/02/2026 16:52

Oh found it - 1 Euro villages :

Love it. We can do an Amanda and Alan on it

(Can I come, please?)

Floisme · 08/02/2026 16:58

My terms:
No cats
No countryside
No pilates or yoga
Decent coffee shop
Decent chocolate
I am allowed out for shopping and trips to my (male) hairdresser

Missproportionate · 08/02/2026 16:49

TheABC · 08/02/2026 14:12

Yes. I started by thinking about a castle, then realised it was not ambitious enough. Hence a large island. Or possibly one of those massive estates with a village on the side and bonus church. Ladies-only on the estate and female-headed homes rented in the village.

I'm now looking at Crown estates as I reckon we could get Queen Camilla on side.

Aren’t there loads of abandoned castle-village-citadel type things in Italy that need rehabilitating - some of them you can buy for next to nothing if you’re hound to sort them out?

also YES to roving guard geese mentioned upthread.

i have three DSs nearing adulthood though so not sure how that could work.

having seen the absolute state of some retirement apartments or villages I think we could do similar but much better. There are a couple that were bought by the residents and then run as they liked it I seem to remember - with houses that could be bought but also with a maintenance fee that was reasonable and covered gardeners etc. guest apartments For visting family

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/02/2026 16:46

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 08/02/2026 16:37

I also used to be a professional dancer. I can run tribal dance classes too.

I was a professional singer.
I'll organise a choir.